Meeting Notes 2012 07 24 - Revision history

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Consensus items: link other discussions, grant text

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	== Consensus items ==		== Consensus items ==

	~~Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified Grants/tf2012‎.~~

	===That Snail be President of Noisebridge===		===That Snail be President of Noisebridge===
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	===Thiel Money===		===Thiel Money===
			:''Previously discussed at meetings on [[Meeting Notes 2012 06 26\|June 26]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 03\|July 3]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 10\|July 10]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 17\|July 17]], and later on [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 31\|July 31]].''

			Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified [[Grants/tf2012‎]].

	Danny O'Brien admits his conflict of interest talking about Peter Thiel.		Danny O'Brien admits his conflict of interest talking about Peter Thiel.

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	Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified Grants/tf2012‎.		Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified Grants/tf2012‎.

	That Snail be President of Noisebridge. I guess we're deferring this. We're trying to trick her into being president. Oh my. Let's queue up a discussion on personal autonomy. We're hoping for a watergate-esque scenario so she can have a convienent exit. Tom is secretly Spiro Agnew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leif is worried that we should announce it in a way such that she might actually find out we're trying to make her president. We don't usually sneak presidency on someone, it's just this once, we promise. Leif doesn't actually feel so strongly about the issue to motivate a discussion. Snail's president now. Deal with it.		===That Snail be President of Noisebridge===

			I guess we're deferring this. We're trying to trick her into being president. Oh my. Let's queue up a discussion on personal autonomy. We're hoping for a watergate-esque scenario so she can have a convienent exit. Tom is secretly Spiro Agnew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leif is worried that we should announce it in a way such that she might actually find out we're trying to make her president. We don't usually sneak presidency on someone, it's just this once, we promise. Leif doesn't actually feel so strongly about the issue to motivate a discussion. Snail's president now. Deal with it.

	It is the consensus of Noisebridge that Snail is president.		It is the consensus of Noisebridge that Snail is president.

	There will be a strait to video remake of our election process I'm sure.		There will be a strait to video remake of our election process I'm sure.

			===Thiel Money===

	Danny O'Brien admits his conflict of interest talking about Peter Thiel.		Danny O'Brien admits his conflict of interest talking about Peter Thiel.

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spelling, link next week's meeting

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	The Hackpad is hackpad.com/OUvowt1VSy7		The Hackpad is hackpad.com/OUvowt1VSy7

	Danny is stressed about not being the ~~notetaker~~.		Danny is stressed about not being the note-taker.

	We've decided to call this place Noisebridge. We have a longer name, unknown to the uninitiated.		We've decided to call this place Noisebridge. We have a longer name, unknown to the uninitiated.
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	Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified Grants/tf2012‎.		Danny proposes signing the grant agreement as specified Grants/tf2012‎.

	That Snail be President of Noisebridge. I guess we're deferring this. We're trying to trick her into being president. Oh my. Let's queue up a discussion on personal autonomy. We're hoping for a watergate-esque scenario so she can have a convienent exit. Tom is secretly Spiro Agnew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~~Lief~~ is worried that we should announce it in a way such that she might actually find out we're trying to make her president. We don't usually sneak presidency on someone, it's just this once, we promise. ~~Lief~~ doesn't actually feel so strongly about the issue to motivate a discussion. Snail's president now. Deal with it.		That Snail be President of Noisebridge. I guess we're deferring this. We're trying to trick her into being president. Oh my. Let's queue up a discussion on personal autonomy. We're hoping for a watergate-esque scenario so she can have a convienent exit. Tom is secretly Spiro Agnew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leif is worried that we should announce it in a way such that she might actually find out we're trying to make her president. We don't usually sneak presidency on someone, it's just this once, we promise. Leif doesn't actually feel so strongly about the issue to motivate a discussion. Snail's president now. Deal with it.

	It is the consensus of Noisebridge that Snail is president.		It is the consensus of Noisebridge that Snail is president.
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	Reasons, rachel asks.		Reasons, rachel asks.

	~~Lief~~ tells us that he has two objections, first and foremost, we're rich and we don't need their money in general. Too complicated to actually use. Noisebridge is "lean" and "fit". ~~Lief~~ points out that this actully is a contrct. Peter Thiel is a mean jerk says ~~Lief~~. Delete your facebook account, close your paypal, spoof DHCP at Defcon, Reject hacker class exploitation!		Leif tells us that he has two objections, first and foremost, we're rich and we don't need their money in general. Too complicated to actually use. Noisebridge is "lean" and "fit". Leif points out that this actully is a contrct. Peter Thiel is a mean jerk says Leif. Delete your facebook account, close your paypal, spoof DHCP at Defcon, Reject hacker class exploitation!

	He also will want reports, and this is a hassle. ~~Lief~~ points out that we can't easily launder this money which means we'll have to document how we "wheel and deal" (as it were).		He also will want reports, and this is a hassle. Leif points out that we can't easily launder this money which means we'll have to document how we "wheel and deal" (as it were).

	Danny explains that he actually thought of this and has it covered. He knows things.		Danny explains that he actually thought of this and has it covered. He knows things.
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	They will use our name so we just have to deal with it.		They will use our name so we just have to deal with it.

	~~Lief~~ is guilt tripping us now.		Leif is guilt tripping us now.

	Our prudent reserve needs to increase, if it's formal or otherwise the Thiel Foundation can claim support of Noisebridge irrespective of the legal framework of the agreement.		Our prudent reserve needs to increase, if it's formal or otherwise the Thiel Foundation can claim support of Noisebridge irrespective of the legal framework of the agreement.
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	Rachel points out that our membership has steadily increased. We're facing the challenge every mid-life rock band faces - Do we sell out or go big on a major label (or charitable foundation, as the case may be)		Rachel points out that our membership has steadily increased. We're facing the challenge every mid-life rock band faces - Do we sell out or go big on a major label (or charitable foundation, as the case may be)

	~~Lief~~ is not unilaterally blocking but he's ~~disapointed~~ in us.		Leif is not unilaterally blocking but he's disappointed in us.

	Maybe we should talk more.		Maybe we should talk more.
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	Though sympathetic against the counterarguments, Danny thinks we should do this.		Though sympathetic against the counterarguments, Danny thinks we should do this.

	People might think that turning down money is kindof ~~wierd~~, even if it's from Peter Thiel and his army of demons.		People might think that turning down money is kindof weird, even if it's from Peter Thiel and his army of demons.

	FLASH FROM THE PAST: Remember when Mitch boycotted Maker Faire.		FLASH FROM THE PAST: Remember when Mitch boycotted Maker Faire.

	Danny works with ~~peter thiel~~ and thinks he's a cool guy. Has "a relationship with him". I'll just leave it at that.		Danny works with Peter Thiel and thinks he's a cool guy. Has "a relationship with him". I'll just leave it at that.

	Doesn't want to personally be in a situation where we make statues out of shit.		Doesn't want to personally be in a situation where we make statues out of shit.
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	Is Noisebridge a person? He's cashing checks but now he's entering a contract! Where will the madness end!		Is Noisebridge a person? He's cashing checks but now he's entering a contract! Where will the madness end!

	~~Lief~~ stands aside.		Leif stands aside.

	Za stands inside.		Za stands inside.

	Za explains that PT started a company to do some nasty stuff. Maybe we should have a bar? PT must repent for his sins before _______ (insert ~~diety~~) !!!!! (by giving us 10k)		Za explains that PT started a company to do some nasty stuff. Maybe we should have a bar? PT must repent for his sins before _______ (insert deity) !!!!! (by giving us 10k)

	Objections being raised are about PT's personal record, could be irrelevant?		Objections being raised are about PT's personal record, could be irrelevant?
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	A man wiser than myself once said "Once many men are making a decision, it will soon be that noone will"		A man wiser than myself once said "Once many men are making a decision, it will soon be that noone will"

			Conclusion: deferred until [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 31\|next week]].

	=== Proposals from last week ===		=== Proposals from last week ===

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	= Agenda =		= Agenda =
	[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The ~~XXXth~~ Meeting of Noisebridge]		[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 226th Meeting of Noisebridge]
	Note-taker: They call him Zephyr		Note-taker: They call him Zephyr
	Moderator: Danny, though he reserves the right to quit.		Moderator: Danny, though he reserves the right to quit.

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	* Daniella, freedom fighter and member of the community. French teacher. Free education!		* Daniella, freedom fighter and member of the community. French teacher. Free education!

	* Jacob, hacking on random projects. ~~Really interested~~ in color vision~~. Likes instagram~~.		* Jacob, hacking on random projects. Interested in color vision, photography, and interfaces for adjusting color in photographs.

	* Jesse Z (J-Z) founding member, here to learn.		* Jesse Z (J-Z) founding member, here to learn.

Malaclyps at 07:41, 25 July 2012

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Secretaribot: Secretaribot says its time for the XXXth Noisebridge notes

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Secretaribot says its time for the XXXth Noisebridge notes

New page

= Instructions =
* '''Delete these instructions section before posting completed minutes.'''
* Pick a moderator and a note-taker.
* Optionally: pick a membership-binder-wrangler; otherwise the moderator can take care of it.

== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take notes on the major points of the meeting, using this page at the template.
* Project the draft meeting notes and agenda in real time throughout the meeting.
* Edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.
* Post the meeting notes to this page, and email out a summary with a link.
* Tell treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members.

== Moderator==
* Understand the structure of Noisebridge [[consensus|decision-making]]
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak.
* Speak only minimally yourself.
* Keep the meeting moving, and avoid getting bogged down.
* Identify discussion items, arrange times limits for talking about each item.
* Identify and summarize consensus, suggest things that need to be done.
* '''Get the [[membership binder]] and ensure that it is returned safely.'''

== Participants ==
* Say your name before you talk.
* Remain on-topic, and speak as concisely as possible.
* Assist the note-taker with any links or corrections that are needed.
* Remain respectful of other participants, their time, and the consensus and moderation process.

= Agenda =

[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]

Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE

Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE

== Introduction and Names ==

* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to explain''' [[Noisebridge_Vision|what Noisebridge is about]]:
<blockquote>Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."</blockquote>
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
* Introduce any new or unusual moderation techniques that you may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
** What's your name,
** are you a member,
** what do you do, and
** if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?

== Short Announcements ==
* Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!
* Any happenings at the space of which members should be made aware.

== New or Stale Events ==
* Is there anything new happening at the space?
* Is there anything that has stopped happening at the space?
* If this is the first meeting of the month, review all the [[Category:Events | events at the space]] and try to weed out stale events.

== [[Membership Binder]] ==
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[membership]], and the application process.
<blockquote>Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community better than it is today.</blockquote>
<blockquote>If you want to show your commitment to Noisebridge and the community here without becoming a capital-M-Member, consider being a Noisebridge associate. Associates pay their dues to the treasurer just like members, use the space just like members, and are valued participants in the community just like members. The difference is that associate membership doesn't involve consensus: there's no need to go through consensus to become an associate, but associates don't get to block consensus either.</blockquote>
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a check on every open application.
* Anyone eligible to join this week should
** introduce themselves,
** answer any questions members may have for them, then
** leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
* The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
* Remember to applaud new members when they return.

== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):

== Consensus items ==
You may wish to '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on the consensus process]].

=== Proposals from last week ===

''(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== Proposals for next week ===

''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion Items ==

If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed until after the meeting ends.

During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exact what each person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the discuss page for this meeting.

== End of Meeting ==
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
* Return the [[membership binder]] to it's rightful location.
* Clean and tidy the meeting notes, then save them to the wiki.
* Send a summary of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
* Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]