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	=Lessons on Conductive Paint=		=Lessons on Conductive Paint=

	Related to Pulse Choker Hack Notes for July 15th, 2009:		Related to Pulse Choker Hack Notes for July 15th, 2009:

	~~"~~We tried silk screening silver conductive paint (MG Chemicals 842-20G) onto two different types of fabric, a water resistant one and a water proof ~~"~~leather like~~"~~ one. Both showed very high resistance (higher than the meter can read) even for very short thick traces. It looks really cool though - hopefully we can figure out what we're doing wrong, and make this work. We also tried measuring the resistance of a huge dollop of paint on the spoon: silver = infinite resistance (!), copper = 200kOhms. It didn't matter if the paint was dried or wet. Note that we shook the bottle prior to use to ensure that the silver particles were dispersed evenly.~~"~~		"We tried silk screening silver conductive paint (MG Chemicals 842-20G) onto two different types of fabric, a water resistant one and a water proof "leather like" one. Both showed very high resistance (higher than the meter can read) even for very short thick traces. It looks really cool though - hopefully we can figure out what we're doing wrong, and make this work. We also tried measuring the resistance of a huge dollop of paint on the spoon: silver = infinite resistance (!), copper = 200kOhms. It didn't matter if the paint was dried or wet. Note that we shook the bottle prior to use to ensure that the silver particles were dispersed evenly."

	==Types of Conductive Paint==		==Types of Conductive Paint==

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	Related to Pulse Choker Hack Notes for July 15th, 2009:		Related to Pulse Choker Hack Notes for July 15th, 2009:

	"We tried silk screening silver conductive paint (MG Chemicals 842-20G) onto two different types of fabric, a water resistant one and a water proof "leather like" one. Both showed very high resistance (higher than the meter can read) even for very short thick traces. It looks really cool though - hopefully we can figure out what we're doing wrong, and make this work. We also tried measuring the resistance of a huge dollop of paint on the spoon: silver = infinite resistance (!), copper = 200kOhms. It didn't matter if the paint was dried or wet. Note that we shook the bottle prior to use to ensure that the silver particles were dispersed evenly."		"We tried silk screening silver conductive paint (MG Chemicals 842-20G) onto two different types of fabric, a water resistant one and a water proof "leather like" one. Both showed very high resistance (higher than the meter can read) even for very short thick traces. It looks really cool though - hopefully we can figure out what we're doing wrong, and make this work. We also tried measuring the resistance of a huge dollop of paint on the spoon: silver = infinite resistance (!), copper = 200kOhms. It didn't matter if the paint was dried or wet. Note that we shook the bottle prior to use to ensure that the silver particles were dispersed evenly."

	==Types of Conductive Paint==		==Types of Conductive Paint==

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	*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)		*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)
	*** Expensive - ~$30 for 0.7 oz (20 g) from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]		*** Expensive - ~$30 for 0.7 oz (20 g) from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]


	* Transparent paint		* Transparent paint

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	*** Higher resistance - ~5-6 ohms per square		*** Higher resistance - ~5-6 ohms per square
	*** Cracks when dried and flexed - [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]		*** Cracks when dried and flexed - [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]

	** Copper (Cu):		** Copper (Cu):
	*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square.		*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square.
	*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz		*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz
	*** We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.], which wasn't viscous, not even quite as viscous as tempera paint. It also forms subtle flakes and could potentially crack like the Ni paint.		*** We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.], which wasn't viscous, not even quite as viscous as tempera paint. It also forms subtle flakes and could potentially crack like the Ni paint.

	** Silver (Ag):		** Silver (Ag):
	*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)		*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)

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	** Copper (Cu):		** Copper (Cu):
	*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square~~. We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]. The paint wasn't viscous, not even quite as viscous as tempera paint~~.		*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square.
	*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz		*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz
			*** We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.], which wasn't viscous, not even quite as viscous as tempera paint. It also forms subtle flakes and could potentially crack like the Ni paint.

	** Silver (Ag):		** Silver (Ag):

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	==Heeds==		==Heeds==

	* Shake paint well to ensure metal particles are well dispersed		* Shake paint well to ensure metal particles are well dispersed. Better yet, stir it a lot!
	* Keep ink wet while working with it. If work time is protracted, mix paint frequently		* Keep ink wet while working with it. If work time is protracted, mix paint frequently
	* Resistivity measures are suppose to be accurate only when paint has fully dried		* Resistivity measures are suppose to be accurate only when paint has fully dried
	* Some paints are more dilute than others. One guy used silver paint, which bled beyond his mask ([http://accelenation.com/?ac.id.121.1 accelenation.com]).		* Some paints are more dilute than others. One guy used silver paint, which bled beyond his mask ([http://accelenation.com/?ac.id.121.1 accelenation.com]).


	==Uses==		==Uses==

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	** Copper (Cu):		** Copper (Cu):
	*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square~~, though our hacking yielded different results~~. We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.].		*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square. We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]. The paint wasn't viscous, not even quite as viscous as tempera paint.
	*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz		*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz

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Uses

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	* Microscopy, i.e. scanning electron microscopy (SEM)		* Microscopy, i.e. scanning electron microscopy (SEM)
	** Companies specializing in SEM equipment note that some paints particularly plantinum may need to be placed in an ultrasonic bath for a few minutes ([http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/platinum-paint.shtml SPI Supplies])		** Companies specializing in SEM equipment note that some paints particularly plantinum may need to be placed in an ultrasonic bath for a few minutes ([http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/platinum-paint.shtml SPI Supplies])

	** Microscopy often utilizes different concentrations of metal particles in conductive paint, so these websites can provide you with a gradient of resistivity in their inventory of paints. M.E. Taylor's [http://www.semicro.org/ SEMicro] division has three concentrations of silver paint: 18%, 36%, and 50% Ag.		** Microscopy often utilizes different concentrations of metal particles in conductive paint, so these websites can provide you with a gradient of resistivity in their inventory of paints. M.E. Taylor's [http://www.semicro.org/ SEMicro] division has three concentrations of silver paint: 18%, 36%, and 50% Ag.

	* Art		* Art
	** Paper Circuits by Leah Buckley: conductive paint, magnetic paint, magnets		** Paper Circuits by Leah Buckley: conductive paint, magnetic paint, magnets

	** Paper printed circuit board by Peter Blasser		** Paper printed circuit board by Peter Blasser

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	* Auto repair		* Auto repair

	** It may be cheaper to purchase conductive paint as the rear window defogger paint at the auto store. I haven't done so. Most defoggers use copper paint.		** It may be cheaper to purchase conductive paint as the rear window defogger paint at the auto store. I haven't done so. Most defoggers use copper paint.

	* Microscopy, i.e. scanning electron microscopy (SEM)		* Microscopy, i.e. scanning electron microscopy (SEM)

	** Companies specializing in SEM equipment note that some paints particularly plantinum may need to be placed in an ultrasonic bath for a few minutes ([http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/platinum-paint.shtml SPI Supplies])		** Companies specializing in SEM equipment note that some paints particularly plantinum may need to be placed in an ultrasonic bath for a few minutes ([http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/platinum-paint.shtml SPI Supplies])

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	* Opaque paint		* Opaque paint
	** Nickel:		** Nickel (Ni):
	*** Higher resistance - ~5-6 ohms per square		*** Higher resistance - ~5-6 ohms per square
	*** Cracks when dried and flexed - [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]		*** Cracks when dried and flexed - [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]

	** Copper:		** Copper (Cu):
	*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square, though our hacking yielded different results. We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.].		*** Higher resistance - ~5 ohms per square, though our hacking yielded different results. We bought CuPro-Cote #292-4 from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.].
	*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz		*** Reasonably priced - ~$30 for 4 oz

	** Silver:		** Silver (Ag):
	*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)		*** Low resistance - ~0.1 ohms per square according to [http://someoneknows.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/desktop-fabrication-wearable-electronics-circuitry/ Desktop Fabrication: Wearable Electronics Circuitry]. The type we bought ([http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/842.html MG Chemicals 842-20G)] promises 0.2 ohms/mil (or ~7.9 ohms/mm)
	*** Expensive - ~$30 for 0.7 oz (20 g) from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]		*** Expensive - ~$30 for 0.7 oz (20 g) from [http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html Less EMF Inc.]
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	* Shake paint well to ensure metal particles are well dispersed		* Shake paint well to ensure metal particles are well dispersed
	* Keep ink wet while working with it. If work time is protracted, mix paint frequently.		* Keep ink wet while working with it. If work time is protracted, mix paint frequently
	* Resistivity measures are suppose to be accurate only when paint has fully dried		* Resistivity measures are suppose to be accurate only when paint has fully dried
			* Some paints are more dilute than others. One guy used silver paint, which bled beyond his mask ([http://accelenation.com/?ac.id.121.1 accelenation.com]).


	==~~Art~~ Uses==		==Uses==

	* ~~Paper Circuits by Leah Buckley: conductive paint, magnetic paint, magnets~~		* Auto repair

	* Paper printed circuit board by Peter Blasser		** It may be cheaper to purchase conductive paint as the rear window defogger paint at the auto store. I haven't done so. Most defoggers use copper paint.

			* Microscopy, i.e. scanning electron microscopy (SEM)

			** Companies specializing in SEM equipment note that some paints particularly plantinum may need to be placed in an ultrasonic bath for a few minutes ([http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/platinum-paint.shtml SPI Supplies])

			** Microscopy often utilizes different concentrations of metal particles in conductive paint, so these websites can provide you with a gradient of resistivity in their inventory of paints. M.E. Taylor's [http://www.semicro.org/ SEMicro] division has three concentrations of silver paint: 18%, 36%, and 50% Ag.

			* Art
			** Paper Circuits by Leah Buckley: conductive paint, magnetic paint, magnets

			** Paper printed circuit board by Peter Blasser