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Discussion:Rename membership tiers(2025)

2025-11-05T18:48:03Z

Zoda: Added new link.

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed
! Proposed By
! Informal Title
! Summary
! Author of this Record
|-
|10/28/2025
|Daniel (Web)
|Rename membership tiers
|It's a common occurrence at Noisebridge to hear a prospective donor ask about membership on their 1st or 2nd visit only to get shot down. People will say becoming a member requires time and trust. This is a semantic confusion caused by the "associate member" and "big M member" tiers. We want to have a naming scheme that makes it clear what these two tiers are for.
Associate membership is a trust level and grants 24/7 door access and the responsibility to close down the space.
Big M membership is a higher trust level and grants the power to block "big C consensus items".
I want to rename associate membership such that it's clear people without responsibility for our door can be full members and should make a monthly donation to help keep Noisebridge alive if they are able to. It is less important, but a new naming scheme could be applied to "big M" as well for consistency.

Proposed changes:
* All people at Noisebridge are members

* The title known as "associate member" is changed to "member with door responsibility". When asking if someone can close up Noisebridge you will ask "Do you have Door Responsibility?" instead of "Are you an associate member?"
* The title known as "Big M Member" is changed to "member with steward responsibility" (still considering "Clerk" or other names)
* Documentation: Change all references to old trust levels to their new names on Discord, the Wiki, door RFID system, etc. Rewrite the "How to give a great Noisebridge tour" sheet. Update the associate membership form.
|Daniel (Web)
|}

=== Existing conversations ===

* Discord threads:
** [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1024714833851076728/1433006837690798161 Weekly Meeting channel]
** [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1433006837690798161/1433007153957965965 Topic thread]
** [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1435701297041899610 Member with Voting Responsibilities]
* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-0IAIJnfwgH_jDs8wQuA1r5BHGuVr5_jd0CM4mnJX4Y/edit?tab=t.0 Thoughtful writeups]

=== Concerns ===

# Encouraging a sense of membership to people on their first few visits to Noisebridge could lead to quicker cultural changes. A group of new people could appear, start donating, and feel a sense of entitlement even if they aren't the kind of people we want to have here.
# "member with steward responsibility" sounds awkward, everyone and anyone could be considered a steward. If associate is getting changed to “door responsibility”, maybe we can change Big M to “voting responsibility”

Discussion:Rename membership tiers(2025)

2025-11-05T18:42:15Z

Zoda: Added concern

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed
! Proposed By
! Informal Title
! Summary
! Author of this Record
|-
|10/28/2025
|Daniel (Web)
|Rename membership tiers
|It's a common occurrence at Noisebridge to hear a prospective donor ask about membership on their 1st or 2nd visit only to get shot down. People will say becoming a member requires time and trust. This is a semantic confusion caused by the "associate member" and "big M member" tiers. We want to have a naming scheme that makes it clear what these two tiers are for.
Associate membership is a trust level and grants 24/7 door access and the responsibility to close down the space.
Big M membership is a higher trust level and grants the power to block "big C consensus items".
I want to rename associate membership such that it's clear people without responsibility for our door can be full members and should make a monthly donation to help keep Noisebridge alive if they are able to. It is less important, but a new naming scheme could be applied to "big M" as well for consistency.

Proposed changes:
* All people at Noisebridge are members

* The title known as "associate member" is changed to "member with door responsibility". When asking if someone can close up Noisebridge you will ask "Do you have Door Responsibility?" instead of "Are you an associate member?"
* The title known as "Big M Member" is changed to "member with steward responsibility" (still considering "Clerk" or other names)
* Documentation: Change all references to old trust levels to their new names on Discord, the Wiki, door RFID system, etc. Rewrite the "How to give a great Noisebridge tour" sheet. Update the associate membership form.
|Daniel (Web)
|}

=== Existing conversations ===

* Discord threads:
** [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1024714833851076728/1433006837690798161 Weekly Meeting channel]
** [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1433006837690798161/1433007153957965965 Topic thread]
* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-0IAIJnfwgH_jDs8wQuA1r5BHGuVr5_jd0CM4mnJX4Y/edit?tab=t.0 Thoughtful writeups]

=== Concerns ===

# Encouraging a sense of membership to people on their first few visits to Noisebridge could lead to quicker cultural changes. A group of new people could appear, start donating, and feel a sense of entitlement even if they aren't the kind of people we want to have here.
# "member with steward responsibility" sounds awkward, everyone and anyone could be considered a steward. If associate is getting changed to “door responsibility”, maybe we can change Big M to “voting responsibility”

Category:Events

2025-10-30T18:19:22Z

Zoda: New meeting on Tuesday.- LX and nthmost are hosting a regular/weekly pre meeting social to talk about noisebridge theory and old stories

{{events}}

<big>'''Noisebridge Events''' include numerous free classes and other official, Semi-Official, one-off and other events.</big>

=[[Hosting_an_Event|How to Host an Event]]=

'''Want to host your event at Noisebridge?''' We like seeing classes, workshops, and talks on interesting things! Most of all, we like seeing familiar faces. Please participate in the space and our [[Meetings|weekly Tuesday me]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
|-
|[[Meetings|Small low-key Lean theorem prover study session. Learn functional programming and theorem proving/program verification with Lean 4.]]
|}[[Meetings|etings]] to check in with folks in the space before announcing a new event. It's good (read this as highly RECOMMENDED!) to add in a link to a wiki page with more information about your event, and a way to contact the event organizer(s). Thanks!

===Resources For Hosting Events===
* Event Organizer or NB Event Sponsor should read this to attendees before the event: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VM5zH_N0fsh--w23U385byPNtEK-cl-TW3TlP8TIalc/edit?usp=sharing Noisebridge Pre-Event Safety Briefing]
* Useful tips for [[Hosting an Event]]
* Avoid schedule conflicts: check [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/ Noisebridge Meetup page] (https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge)
* [[:Category:Events Support|Events Support]]

<onlyinclude>

=Event Calendar=
{{events}}

'''events are haphazardly cross-posted on [[Meetup]], the [[Discord]], and [https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?height=600&wkst=2&bgcolor=%23D50000&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&showTitle=1&showNav=0&showPrint=0&showTabs=0&showTz=0&showCalendars=0&mode=AGENDA&showDate=1&src=NmEyYThhZDdhYzRkMDA5NTY1YTkwZjZhYWZiOTAxYzJkYWZhMzUyY2U4NmIzMTY0MTA4NzIxYzY3NjcyNzFmYkBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t&color=%23E67C73 Google Calender] <s>[https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?src=v4694n2t0jmpg2i9i2fck7uiuq2oo8f7@import.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles here]</s>

Some noisebridger's have also started hosting Events from a calendar at https://noisebridge.today/, and new (additional) associated [https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?height=600&wkst=2&bgcolor=%23D50000&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&showTitle=1&showNav=0&showPrint=0&showTabs=0&showTz=0&showCalendars=0&mode=AGENDA&showDate=1&src=NmEyYThhZDdhYzRkMDA5NTY1YTkwZjZhYWZiOTAxYzJkYWZhMzUyY2U4NmIzMTY0MTA4NzIxYzY3NjcyNzFmYkBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t&color=%23E67C73 gCal].

'''Key:'''
{{Template:Recurring}}: Weekly |
{{Template:RecurringNumbered|1st}} {{Template:RecurringNumbered|2nd}} {{Template:RecurringNumbered|3rd}} {{Template:RecurringNumbered|4th}}: Certain weeks |
{{Template:RecurringException|-2nd}}: Except certain weeks |
{{Template:Streaming}}: [[Streaming]] |
event: caution maybe dead |
event: management of space

=== [[:Category:Upcoming_Events|Upcoming]] Events ===

* '''Spetember 26-28''' - [[Maker Faire 2025]]
* '''Saturday, October 25''' -- SF Lit Crawl 2025. Volunteers will start setting up at 5pm. At 6:30pm the San Francisco Writers Workshop presents: We've Got Notes For You. At 8pm the Afrosurreal Writers Workshop of Oakland presents When the Real and the Surreal Merge: Writing the Warnings of Our Ancestors. Lit Crawl is always FREE, and anyone is welcome to attend either session, or both! For more information: <nowiki>https://www.litquake.org/litcrawl</nowiki>


[[File:5mofposter.jpg|thumb|250px|right|'''[[Five Minutes of Fame]]''': 10 5 minute talks every third Thursday! Spread this poster around.]]
[[Image:NoisebridgeMeetingPoster.fw.png|250px|thumb|right|Introduce yourself and meet the community at meetings|link=meetings]]

=== Mondays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 7:00pm || '''[[Meetups/Infra]]''' || Self-hosting, rough consensus, & running code. Find upcoming sessions on [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/ Meetup] or in #meetup-infra on Discord.
|-
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 7:00pm || '''[[Circuit_Hacking_Monday|Circuit Hacking Monday]]''' || Learn electronics, Arduino, and/or how to solder! We have kits and Arduinos for donations, or bring your own project. Most Mondays at 7PM. More details on [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/ Meetup]
|-
|-style="background-color:lightblue
| {{Template:Recurring}} || you-o-clock || <big>'''TRASH NIGHT'''</big> || Please take out all three large [[trash]] bins!! They are on the patio.
|}

=== Tuesdays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
|
|-
|{{Template:Recurring}} {{Template:Streaming}}
|5:00pm
|Noisebridge Stories & Pre-meeting Social
|Noisebridge has a rich anarchist tradition, values, and has gone through a lot of changes. Come share your ideas of what you'd like change. Questions about why we do things the way we do. Let's talk about future visions of noisebridge. Keep on experimenting! Keep on learning!
|-style="background-color:lightblue
| {{Template:Recurring}} {{Template:Streaming}} || 7:00pm || '''[[Meetings|Noisebridge Weekly Meeting]]''' || (In person & [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Jitsi online via Jitsi]) - Introduce new people and [[events]], [[joining]], announcements, discussions, and [[consensus]]. ''Come express what you think about what's going on with your space!''
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 7:00pm || '''[[San Francisco Writers Workshop]]''' || Free drop-in writers workshop, get feedback and critique! Located on the first floor hackitorium.
|}

=== Wednesdays ===

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} {{Template:Streaming}} || 7:00pm - 9:00pm || '''[[Gamebridge]]''' || '''game development mentoring & coworking meetup''' for gamedev beginners and indies alike.
|-

| <s>{{Template:RecurringNumbered|1st}}</s>|| <s>8:00pm</s>|| '''<s>[[Woodhacking Wednesday]]</s> '''|| <s>"Have a woodworking project in mind but you don't know where to get started? This is a good time to come ask questions, get some help, and ideas from other woodworkers. Everyone is welcome..." Confirm dates with [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/shdwftyfcqbjb/ Meetup]</s> '''

<s> </s>
|}

=== Thursdays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 6:30pm - 8:30pm || '''[[AI Meetup]]''' || Talks, Hangouts and Paper reads about AI, AGI, LLMs, RL, Agents
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 7:00pm - 8:00pm (online only) || '''[[Python Project Meetup]]''' || Come together to complete a comprehensive computer programming project, largely in Python!
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|2nd}} || 8:00pm - 9:30pm || '''[[Cybersecurity Meetup]]''' || Informal discussion about all things security related.
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|3rd}} {{Template:Streaming}} || 8:00pm - 9:00pm || '''[[Five Minutes of Fame]]''' a.k.a. 5MoF || Ten 5min talks in an hour, on any topic
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|4th}} {{Template:Streaming}} || 8:00pm - 10:30pm || '''[[Resident Electronic Music]]''' || An electronic music open mic!
|-style="background-color:lightblue
| {{Template:Recurring}} || you-o-clock || <big>'''TRASH NIGHT'''</big> || Please take out all three large [[trash]] bins!! They are on the patio.

|}

=== Fridays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description

|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 9:00am - 5:00pm || Hack on Noisebridge! || a good open time for cleaning 'n re-organizing the physical space. Coffee and Donuts on a first-come first-served basis! See #facilities-aka... channel on the Discord

|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 7:00pm - 9:00pm || '''[https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/304318810/?eventOrigin=group_events_list Swifty Fridays]''' || '''Swift language mentoring & co-working meetup''' All experience levels welcome!
|-

|}

=== Saturdays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|3rd}} || 2:00pm - 6:00pm || '''[[Godot Meetup]]''' || Gamedev workshop & networking for users of the Godot game engine.
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|4th}} || 1:00pm - 3:00pm || '''[[Building Guitar Pedals Workshop]]''' || Come build guitar pedals or other electronic music equipment! Look for the #pedal-building channel under #events in the discord. Check the [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/297252028/ Meetup] for more info and confirmed dates.
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|4th}} || 4:00pm - 7:00pm || '''[[Decentralized Web]]''' || Presentations and networking for those interested in building and using the decentralized web.
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 8pm || [[Noisebridge Cinema!]] ||
|}

=== Sundays ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-left:0px; text-align:left;"
! Tags !! Time !! Title !! Description
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} ||2:00pm - 4:00pm || [[Laser Cutter]] training || Get certified to use the laser cutter
|-
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|2nd}} || 2:00pm - 3:00pm || '''Fabrication 101 2nd [[Shop]] Sundays''' || class on safety and basic techniques
|-
| {{Template:Recurring}} || 4:00pm - 8:00pm || '''[[Spacebridge: The Next Generation|Spacebridge Weekly Meeting]]''' || Noisebridge's resident space program. [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/301304688/ Meetup page]. (Sometimes we watch a politically-related movie around 7:30)

|}

=== Other [[BACH|Bay Area Consortium of Hackerspaces]] Events ===
* [https://queeriouslabs.com/ Queerious Labs] is open during limited times, check it's [https://queeriouslabs.com/status/ status]
* [[SudoRoom]]: Women & Non-Binary Coding Mondays 7-9pm
* [[SudoRoom]]: Hardware Hacking Tuesdays 7-10pm

</onlyinclude>
'''CONTACT:''' If you'd like to contact somebody at Noisebridge regarding these Events or even the Noisebridge Wiki itself, then please send an email message to one of the Board members listed in the [[Contacts]] list, e.g., <secretary@noisebridge.net> or <treasurer@noisebridge.net>

= Potential Future Events =

The [[Future_Events]] page contains a list of possible future events that have been proposed!

= Orphaned Events =
These events appear to be dormant or extinct.

=== 2025 Recurring Events ===
*[[Bay Area Hackers' Association|BAHA: Bay Area Hackers' Association]] || Security Hacking Meeting 2nd Sundays at [[272]] and via [[Jitsi]]
*[https://www.meetup.com/free-code-camp-sf/ Free Code Camp] || with Paul, Farley, Brandon as host
*[[Advanced_Geometry_SF|Advanced Geometry SF]] || An event for people who would like to study/teach advanced topics in geometry.
*[[NeurotechX]] SF hacknights || for mind-machine interfacing with EEGs.
*[[Leanprover|Lean Theorem prover/programming]] study meet|| An event for people who would like to study/teach Lean theorem prover/programming.
*[[Bike Psych! ]] || Time and space to talk about transit related projects Confirm with [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/296201749/?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=share-btn_savedevents_share_modal&utm_source=link Meetup]
*[[Conflict Resolution|Conflict Resolution]] || We do our best to address pressing issues, mitigate conflicts, be excellent to each other. Previously held a working group meeting on Wednesdays at 7pm. Re-instantiated as an asynchronous group in #safety-council on Discord.
*[[Zinemakers]] meetup || Monthly gathering of zine and book and comic creators, to share ideas and work on projects. Newbies welcome! Confirm with [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292958956/?isFirstPublish=true Meetup]
*Numerati SF || Hacking the Stock Market with AI/ML. Every other Tuesday.
*[[Neurotech Tuesdays]] || Do neuro. Do tech. sfg. Check #🧠│neurotech on discord
*[[3d Simulation Hack Night]] || Come work on your Unreal engine, 3d Unity projects, Houdini projects, 3d character design projects, or architecture projects! General meetup for working in simulation and 3d. Hosted by [https://delta.center/ delta_ark]
*[[PyClass|Python Class]] || Learn Python in this free introductory class.
*[[Pico-W Python School Group]] || Learn Python programming using Pico-W microcontrollers for kids and students of all ages.
*Nix and NixOS Meetup - BI-Weekly gathering of Nix and NixOS hackers to discuss use cases, learning material, share tacit knowledge and work on projects.
*[[Machine Learning]] AI and RL Meetup - Weekly gathering of AI enthusiasts discussing cool things happening in the field and ongoing projects / learning tracks
* [[Self-Driving Flying Car Meetup]]
* [[Circuit Launch]] (under other [[BACH]] events): 3rd Friday 5:30pm-8:30pm Robot Build Night & Fixit Clinic
*{{Template:Recurring}} '''7:00 pm to 8:30 pm [https://github.com/maniqin/noisebridge_sql Noisebridge SQL Class]''' - Wondering why SQL is so popular and used even though it has been around for decades? Come find out @ Noisebridge SQL class! This class is an intro / intermediate level class on SQL—the backbone language to any relational database around. ([[Church]] classroom).

=== Previous Years Recurring Events ===
* SAT 10:15 - 12:10 [[Juggling with Judy!]] Note: next class is scheduled for Saturday June 29th. Attention juggling fans! Judy will be at the 2013 World Juggling Day celebration Saturday June 15th at Ripley's Believe It Or Not Odditorium in San Francisco Fisherman's Warf - free event begins at 1. Come check it out!
* THU 18:00 - 21:00 '''[[Privacy Bay]]''' - A monthly meetup for Bay Area folks interested in privacy. Meets in Church on the last Thursday of the month.
* FRI 19:00 - 21:00 [[Anarchy_101|Anarchy 101]] - a class/seminar on what anarchy is and is not, and how it impacts us as individuals and as discrete groups.
* 20:00 - 22:00 [[Noise~_Wednesday | Noise~ Wed]] - Graphical media programming with Max/MSP/Jitter
* 19:00 [[Tahoe-LAFS]] - Occasional meetup of users and/or developers of the Least Authority File System.
* 14:00 - 16:00 Android Developer Support Group - Meet up with other app developers in the library for a lightly structured knowledge-share.
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''5:00 pm to 7:30 pm [[Songbridge|Songbridge Music Making Tuesdays]]''' - Beginner-friendly music making and mentoring meetup with Ableton/GarageBand/Logic tutorials for beginners and peer collabs. ([[Noise Square Table]]).
| {{Template:RecurringNumbered|3rd}} || 1:00pm - 5:00pm || '''[[TOOOL-SF]]''' || [[locksport]] meetup of The SF Chapter of the Open Organisation Of Lockpickers.
|-
* (Wednesday) {{Template:Recurring}} 2:00 pm to 3:30 pm Build a Solar Lab Kit with SpyCamp - Starting June 14th to August 16th, at 2:00pm sharp Natalie (errcat) will be leading a solar charger kit lab for kids! Friends and family are invited to come with their kids and build a solar charger along side kids from SpyCamp. Kits are sold at the door for 20 dollars for whoever wishes to participate (5 dollars from each kit are donated to Noisebridge).
* (Wednesday) {{Template:RecurringException|alternating monthly}} 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm - '''[[Cyberspectrum|Cyberspectrum: Software Defined Radio Meetup]]''' in the Hackatorium(''new''): A place to learn and exchange ideas about SDR. Presentations on concepts, mystery signals, hardware/software and cool applications. Event alternates monthly between SF and the South Bay.
* (Wednesday) {{Template:RecurringNumbered|1st}} Wednesday of every month, 7:30-9. '''[[with Software; Art()]]''' Present your personal and expressive art made with software/hardware of your own making and get feedback and critical dialogue from fellow artist/technologists. ON HIATUS TILL OCTOBER! [Last updated August 2, 201S7].
* (Wednesday) {{Template:Recurring}} 7:30 pm to 9:00 pm - Career Change: How to kickstart your new career in web development
* (Thursday) {{Template:Recurring}} 7:30 pm to 10:00 pm The [[Go]] group meets up on Wednesdays and Thursdays to play.
* (Sunday) {{Template:Recurring}} 3:00 pm [[Go]] - Playing of the Go board game. On nice days we often take the boards to Dolores Park and play there.
* (Sunday) {{Template:Recurring}} 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm .impact Workathons in Turing classrom. Work on projects that will help humanity & beyond.

Removed Open event listings as the hours already say that and it makes the list take up more space and harder to read on screens and printouts.
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''3:00 pm - 9:00 pm''' Noisebridge is open!
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''6:00 pm - 11:00 pm: Open''' We are open Friday evenings!
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''12:00 pm - 5:00 pm''' Noisebridge is open! Come hack and we may stay open later
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''1:00 pm - 5:00 pm''' Noisebridge is open!

= Past One-Off Events =
===2025===
* Sunday, January 19th - Global Game Jam 6PM! RSVP on MEETUP
* Saturday March 8th - Heph Adams Memorial Gathering
* Friday, June 6 - San Francisco Writers Workshop Benefit for Noisebridge, 7-9pm

===2024===

* March 9, 2024 - [[The Immigrants Fashion Show]], 7PM-11PM
* March 4, 2024 - [[Ice Music Soundbath]] meetup, Downstairs Hackitorium, 6PM
* Feb 29, 2024 - [[Leap Day Party 2024]] feat. "Sons of the Earth and the Sky" film series episode 1 premiere, Downstairs Hackitorium, 7PM

===2023===
* time flies

===2022===
* '''[[Sunday_Streets|Sunday Streets]]''' on july 10th, Valencia
* '''Punk Rock Show''' Feb 12, 2022: A bunch of awesome bands played at [[272]].
* October 12, 2022 6:30PM''' [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/288791069/ Pre ROS Con Meetup]''' Featuring delegates from OpenCV and ROS robotics.
* '''[[San Friend Disco]] July 29:''' A musical and visual 7-10 pm afterparty following a Delores Park picnic.
* '''June 21, 3:30pm - 4:30pm''' 80 engineering students from Barcelona are coming for a tour! (Lizzard to host) 
* '''[[NB14]] Kickoff: Friday, April 1''': Noisebridge's 14th anniversary party, '''[[HackComedy]]''' & '''[[Stupid Hackathon 8]]''' kickoff.
* '''[[NB14]] Hackday: Saturday, April 2''': '''[[Stupid Hackathon 8]]''' jamming day & workshops.
* '''[[NB14]] Finale: Sunday, April 3''': '''[[Stupid Hackathon 8]]''' Demo Night & '''[[NB14]] Finale & Music Show'''.
* '''[[NeurotechX GDC 2022]]: March 24''' Noisebridge is hosting a Neurotech in gaming party for GDC. Host: [[User:Pyconaut]]
* '''[[MNT Reform]]: Friday, March 4, 6pm-8pm''' Hosted by TJ Melanson with Lukas F. Hartmann coming all the way from Berlin, Germany via Jitsi.
* '''[[Oscilator_March_4|The Beat Frequency: Oscilator Vol. 1]]: March 4 8pm-11pm''' Noisebridge's electronic musicians will perform.

===2021===
* '''August 14, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm''' Art opening party for sailorhg's beautiful circuit hacking mural! There will be cookies shaped like electronic components! Mural is upstairs; eating and drinking on first floor outdoors only.
* '''August 21, 8:00 pm - 10:00 pm''' HackComedy! Comedy night run by Victor! Donations welcome! Details to come.
*{{event
|time = Sundays, 1:00
|title = [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Blender_Class Blender 3D Animation and Design class]
|description = Blender Class teaching the basics of 3d design and animation.
}}

===2019===
*{{event
|time = Friday, February 22, 2019, 19:00
|title = [[Noisebridge_Gaming_Archivists|Road Rash 2]]
|description = Friday, February 22, 2019, 19:00 -- Come play Road Rash 2 with the Noisebridge Gaming Archivists live on NGALAC or watch us online at twitch.tv/noisebridge.
}}

*{{event
|time = Friday, January 25, 2019, 5:00pm
|title = Global Game Jam 2019
|description = Friday, January 25, 2019, 5:00pm to Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/257921084/
}}

===2018===
*{{event
|time = Friday, January 26, 2018, 5:00pm
|title = Global Game Jam 2018
|description = Friday, January 26, 2018, 5:00pm to Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/246695235/
}}

===2017===
*{{event
|time = Saturday, September 09, 2017, 10:00am
|title = Noisebridge 10 Year Anniversary Exhibition and Ball
|description = Saturday, September 09, 2017, 10:00am to Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/241834198/; and Tuesday, September 12th, 8:00pm for the special guest event -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/243097404/
}}

===2016===
*{{event
|time = Saturday, June 18th, 2016, 1pm
|title = Noisebridge picnic-potluck gathering 1pm-3pm
|description = Bring #{food, drink} whatever you want to share, potluck style! All Noisebridge folks and friends are welcome! Let's leave from NB 15min before or meet under the palm trees, South-East corner of Dolores Park near the Playground (20th & Church) in San Francisco, CA 94114: https://goo.gl/maps/8jmcnCMayoD2
}}
*{{event
|time = Saturday, May 28th, 2016, 1pm
|title = Noisebridge picnic-potluck gathering 1pm-3pm
|description = Bring #{food, drink} whatever you want to share, potluck style! All Noisebridge folks and friends are welcome! Let's meet under the palm trees, South-East corner of Dolores Park near the Playground (20th & Church) in San Francisco, CA 94114: https://goo.gl/maps/8jmcnCMayoD2
}}
*{{event
|time = Thursday, February 25th, 2016, 7pm
|title = SF Amateur Mathematicians
|description = Differential Geometry and Wide-Angle Photography with Chad Fong. In Church Room. See [http://www.meetup.com/SF-Amateur-Mathematicians/events/228761849/ Meetup page]. SF Amateur Mathematicians is a math club open to everyone interested in learning more about math. Topics and talks generally assume some collegiate mathematical background.
}}
*{{event
|time = Sunday, February 7th, 2016, 11:00am
|title = HackTheLeft
|description = [[HackTheLeft|Hack the Left]] is an ''anticapitalist'' hackathon, going on for the entire long weekend of February 5th-7th at Noisebridge. This is an experiment to see what happens when you get a bunch of leftists in a room for a weekend with the intention to advance liberatory and ''anticapitalist'' projects using technology. This includes software projects like Tor and Signal, art projects like the Anti-Eviction Mapping Project and Men in Grey, hardware projects like mesh networks and signal jammers, and tools for rad organizations like Anti Police-Crimethink Project and Food Not Bombs. It's clear that there's a huge amount of opportunity for liberatory technology. It's up to us to build it. 

*Hackathon participants should be able to get into Noisebridge by [[Hours | its 11:00 AM opening hour]], if not earlier, for both weekend days.
}}

===2014===
*{{event
|time = Sunday, September 23, 5:00pm
|title = How to Start a Startup MOOC Lecture Viewings
|description = We would get together to watch the lectures together and conduct discussion and networking afterwards. http://startupclass.samaltman.com/
|}}

===2013===
*{{event
|time = Friday, August 9, 5:00pm
|title = Noisebridge Party Setup
|description = Volunteers will be preparing the space for Saturday's show. There are no scheduled conflicts; you might be asked to move multiple times by someone pushing a broom and assembling a raised stage simultaneously.
|}}

*{{event
|time = Saturday, August 10, 4:00pm
|title = Noisebridge "______ the Bridge" Party
|description = a summer fundraising party for Noisebridge, which YOU are invited to!
|suggested donation = $10, but no one turned away for lack of funds
|}}

*{{event
|time = Sunday, August 11, 2:00pm
|title = Bay Area Hackers' Association Meeting
|description = Jon Callas presenting on [[BAHA/2013-08-11|Secure Communications, Privacy, Counter-Surveillance]].
|}}

* '''Wednesday, May 22, 7.00 pm: Instructables Build Night''' - Bare Conductive, Instructables will supply Bare Conductive paint pens and pizza. Come experiment with the paint and post some Instructables. This is a FREE event.

===2012===
* '''December 20, Thursday, 20:00 - 22:00 - [[5MoF|5 Minutes of Fame]]''' - Following up on its triumphant return in November, 5MoF is back with another showcase of lightning talks & other good stuff, with your host Sir Danny O'Brien! Details TBA
*'''Tuesday Feb14th, 18:00 to 20:00''' ZiP MegaZine releases its inaugural issue with '''My Noisy Valentine''' Zine Release Microparty in the Noisebridge cafeFor more info follow [[zine | this]] link.
* '''Wednesday, Jan30, 20:00-22:00''' [[zine|ZiP]] meeting for zine-makers & others with an interest in printing & self-publishingThe meeting 1/30/13 is our first since mid-2012We plan to hold them regularly from now on at this time (Wednesday 8pm)This meeting will be informal & will probably take place in the printing/lasercutter area of the hackerspace.

===2011===

* '''September 11th 14:00 to 17:00''' - The San Francisco Chapter of the Open Organisation Of Lockpickers and Bay Area Hacker's Association present a joint meeting on [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Locksport locksport]
*'''August 4, 7PM, Thursday''' - [http://zeidman.net Bob Zeidman] will be giving a talk on video games and intellectual property, hosted by TheMADEHe will also speak about IP infringement cases.
*'''August 9, 6:30PM, Tuesday''' - [http://www.meetup.com/makesf/events/26413241/ Make:SF] - Chris Jefferies will speak about the wireless sensor kit he is developing and we are brinunderstanding and using computersging back our all star soldering kits.

* '''April 13th, 19:00''' - Kombucha fermentation class with [[BioBridge]]
*'''April 7th, 20:00''' - [[In-Depth|Noisebridge: In-Depth]] Our monthly lecture and round tableThis month's speaker will be Aragorn! his lecture will be "Anarchism & technology: An unbridgeable chasm"
*'''April 4th, 20:00''' - Camp KDE PartyCome and meet part of the KDE North America community and get a quick overview of this year's [http://camp.kde.org/ Camp KDE] conferenceThere will be beer
*'''April 3rd, 16:00''' - NoiseCaching: Meet-up to build some geocaches, and talk about making geocoinsThen we'll head out to find some local caches and place caches we made[http://www.geocaching.com More info about Geocaching here]
* '''March 20th, 19:00''' [[Hack Politics]] meetup -- the first meetup to figure out how we in the hacker community can effectively mobilize and create meaningful change in these interesting times
* '''March 12th, 12:00-18:00 - Noisebridge Hackathon!''' Second Saturday Hackathon is a casual monthly event dedicated to working on the space or relevant projects and building community This is a great time to get feedback or help on any projects you have been considering that center around the space, culture, and infrastructure of Noisebridge You can also help with existing projects and find out ways to get involved.
* '''March 10, Thursday, 19:00 - Group Grammar Clinic''' - Church Classroom - Donations gladly accepted - A clinic for grammar and writing evaluationPlease bring your web/social or technical writing for us to evaluateBring your laptop as well Collaboration groupware possibly provided(Please suggest groupware software to use if you wish)Constructive feedback from other group members is encouraged so that this clinic is a group process- Facilitator: [[User:Owen|Owen]] (opietro@yahoo.com)
* '''March 9th, 20:00''' - Ferment and filter a mash! [[fermentation logs]]

===2010===
* '''Sunday, August 22, 19:00 CLUB-MATE DROPOFF AND TASTING PARTY''' Nick Farr will be in town to drop off Club-Mate ordered by San Franciscans!
* '''June 5th, 12:00-19:00 - [[NoiseBridgeRehab]]''' - Help make the space more usable and accessible! Noisebridge needs your help!
* '''June 5th, 16:00-20:00 - [[Science For Juggalos]]''' - Science Fair in front of the Warfield Theater teaching magnetism to Juggalos
* '''June 6th, 15:00 - [[AVC Meetup]]''' - Entrepreneurial bonding & matchmaking
* '''June 9th, 21:00 - Your liver supports Noisebridge''' - Come to Elixir @ 16th & Guerrero anytime after 21:00 and drink, drink, drink! 50% of tips go to Noisebridge
* '''February 27th, 20:00 - [[Hacker EPROM]]''' - Noisebridge's first prom! Nice tie and a (robot) date requiredWe will have a DJ and punch.
* '''February 24th, 19:00, Wednesday - Joris Peels, of [http://www.shapeways.com Shapeways]''', and expert on 3D printing, will give a [[ShaperwaysPresentation | talk and demonstration]] at Noisebridge!.
* '''February 23rd, 18:00 - Cleaning day''' - Come and help clean Noisebridge, because everyone loves a clean hack space.
* '''February 12th, 21:00 - visit from Steve Jackson'''Game designer [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_%28US_game_designer%29 Steve Jackson], founder of Steve Jackson Games, will visit Noisebridge.
* '''January 27th, 18:00-20:00 - [[beatrixjar event|Circuit Bending Workshop]]''' - [http://www.beatrixjar.com/ Beatrix*JAR] (contact [[User:Gpvillamil|Gian Pablo]] for more info)
* '''January 27th, 20:00-22:00 - [[beatrixjar event|Circuit Bending Performance]]''' - [http://www.beatrixjar.com/ Beatrix*JAR] - "Celebrate a night of new sound that will change your idea of music forever!"
* '''January 25th, 19:30 - [[Bag Porn]]''' - What's in your bag?
* '''January 20th, 19:00-21:00 - [http://groups.google.com/group/bacat/about Bay Categories & Types]''' - Categories, monoids, monads, functors and more! Held in the Alonzo Church classroom.
* '''January 20th, 19:00 - [[User Experience Book Club SF]]''' - Our book this month is "A Theory of Fun for Game Design" by Raph Koster - http://is.gd/6sEqw (meets in Turing)
* '''January 21st, 20:00 - [[Five Minutes of Fame]]''' - Monthly set of lightning talks on diverse topics
* '''January 22nd, 17:00 - [[CleaningParty| Cleaning Party]]''' - Come help clean up Noisebridge! Awsum fun!
* ...January 14th,16th, and 17th 1:00- ??? Build Out day for kitchen/bathroom/laundry bring yourself and a good attitude, learn a few things as well
* '''January 15th, 18:00 - [[CNC_Mill_Workshop]]''' - Learn to use the CNC mill for 2D engraving and circuit board routing
* Thursdays 17:00 [[ASL Group|American Sign Language]] - Learn how to talk without using your voice (or just come chat in ASL)[http://whenisgood.net/noisebridge/asl/generic click to reschedule]

===2009===
* '''November 18th, 19:30''' - [[Dorkbot_2009_11_18|Dorkbot]]
* '''November 19th, 18:00''' - [[Mesh meetup]]
* '''November 19th, 20:00''' - [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
* '''November 20th, 18:00''' - Loud Objects [http://www.flickr.com/photos/createdigitalmedia/3428249036/ Noise Toy workshop].
* '''November 20th, 20:00''' - Performance by [http://www.loudobjects.com/ Loud Objects], (featuring Tristan Perich and Lesley Flanigan) and [http://www.myspace.com/jibkidder Jib Kidder].
:'''2009-11-05''' - [http://www.server-sky.com/ Server Sky presentation: Internet and Computation in Orbit] by Keith Lofstrom
:'''2009-11-05''' - [[Mesh meetup]]
:'''2009-11-02''' - [[French]] book club meeting to discuss [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/2842612892/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance Une Si Longue Lettre]
: ''' October 1st, 18:00''' - [[Wireless_Mesh_Network_Meetup | Mesh wireless meetup]]
: ''' October 1st, 19:00''' - [http://groups.google.com/group/bacat Bay Area Categories and Types]
: '''2009-10-03''' [[Year 1 Open Hacker House]]
:'''Friday''': [[CrazyCryptoNight]] - Discussion of cryptography for beginners through experts6-???
:'''Sunday''' : [[OpenEEG | OpenEEG Hacking]] Sundays, at 3-5pm.
:'''Monday''': [[German]] - Learn German, all levels7pm beginners, 8pm advancedRSVP 24 hours in advance for the benefit of the instructorEvents ran May-November 2009Currently on Thursdays at 8Get on the mailing list.
:'''Tuesday''': [[Haskell/Haschool]] - Learn Haskell with Jason Dusek 6PM - 7:30PM, from May until we're all experts.
:'''Wednesday''': [[Adobe_Lightroom|Adobe Lightroom]] - Become a more organized photographerWeekly class (mostly held off site).
:'''Thursday''': [[Professional VFX Compositing With Adobe After Effects]] - Taught by [[User:SFSlim|Aaron Muszalski]]7:30PM - 10PM, most Thursdays in May & June & ? (click through dammit)
:'''2009-09-17''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] 3D Edition
:'''2009-09-17''': [[Wireless Mesh Network Meetup | Mesh wireless meetup]]
:'''2009-08-20''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] One Dee Edition
:'''2009-07-16''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] Zero Dee
:'''2009-07-02 - 2009-07-05''': [http://toorcamp.org Toorcamp]
:'''2009-07-01''': Noisedroid meeting to discuss location logging on Android platform (and other stuff too, I'm sure)
:'''2009-06-30''': [[Powerbocking Class|Powerbocking class]]
:'''2009-06-30''': "Suing Telemarketers for Fun and Profit" (Toorcamp talk preview)
:'''2009-06-28''': "Meditation for Hackers" (Toorcamp workshop preview)
:'''2009-06-18''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-06-15''': [[Eagle Workshop]] Session two of the Eagle CAD workshop.
:'''2009-06-13''': [[RoboGames 2009]] Noisebridge had a booth staffed by vounteers, great fun!
:'''2009-05-21''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-04-27''': [[EagleCAD workshop]] -- learn to use this CAD tool for printed circuit board design
:'''2009-04-16''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] April showers & flowers edition
:'''2009-04-11''': [[RFID Hacking]] weekend workshop (this event moved from the original March date)
:'''2009-04-05''': [[First aid and CPR class]] Learning how to not only not die, but also reduce scarring!
:'''2009-04-03''': [[Sudo pop]] 2PM and onMaking the first batch of a Noisebridge label yerba mate-niated rootbrew, gratis and DIY
:'''2009-03-26''': [[OpenEEG | OpenEEG Hacking]] first meet up for this new group: 8 pm
:'''2009-03-19''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-03-12''': [[OpenBTS and GSM]] talk by David Burgess
:'''2009-02-14''': [[Open Heart Workshop]] Valentine's Day blinkyheart soldering party!
:'''2009-02-13''': [[Time-t_Party|<tt>time_t</tt> Party]] to celebrate 1,234,567,890 since the Unix epoch.
:'''2009-02-09''': [[Spanish learning at 8:30]]
:'''2009-02-05''': [[PGP Key Workshop]]
:'''2009-01-31''': [[Locksport and Lockpicking]]

===2008===
:'''2008-12-27''': [[25C3]] Chaos Computer Congress in Berlin
:'''2008-12-20 & 21''': [[Creme Brulee]] Workshop on creating a french dessert, with bonus propane torch.
:'''2008-12-17 20:00''': [[Machine Learning]] Birds-of-a-feather
:'''2008-11-24''': [[Circuit Hacking Monday]] circuit design workshop
:'''2008-11-21,understanding and using computers 7pm''':[[Milk and Cookies]] -- [[User:Dmolnar|David Molnar]] hosts Milk and Cookies at 83CBring a short 5-7minute thing to read to othersBring a potluck cookie/snack/drink if you likeDavid will bring milk and cookies.
:'''2008-11-17, 7:30pm''': [[Basic Bicycle Maintain]] - [[User:rubin110|Rubin]] and [[User:rigel|rigel]] hate it w8:00 pm to 10:00hen we see a bike that isn't maintainedScreechy chains and clacking derailleur can go to hellBasic bike tune up, sharing the smarts on simple things you can do at home to make your ride suck a whole lot less.
:'''2008-11-16, 5:00pm''': [[RepRap Soldering Party]] - help assemble RepRap! RSVPs required on wiki! [[User:Adi|adi]]
:'''2008-11-16, 3:00pm''': [[Oscilloscopes]] - Learn how to use this versatile tool to test electronic circuits Maximum 6 slots, please sign up ahead of time! [[User:dstaff|dstaff]]
:'''2008-10-31''': [[Halloween Open House]] - NoiseBridge's own [[PPPC]] threw an awesome open house/halloween galaPost pictures if you got 'em!
:'''2008-10-25''': [[Soldering Workshop]] and Pumpkin Hackin' - Learn to solder for total newbies (or learn to solder better!), including surface mountAdditionally, carve your halloween pumpkins and enjoy some experimental pumpkin pie and/or soup.
:'''2008-10-07''': (tuesday before meeting) - Etch a circuit boardI'll be trying a photo resist etching and a basic printed mask etchingThis is step 1/3 for a project called "annoying USB thingie" which will execute pre-defined keystrokes by sneaking a tiny USB dongle onto a victim^h^h^h^h^h buddy's computer.
:'''2008-09-13''': [[Processing Workshop]] — Learn this very easy-to-use programming language! - [[Processing Workshop Report]]
:'''2008-02-16''': [[Brain Machine Workshop|Brain Machine Making Workshop]]: Our first hardware sprint!

[[Category:Top level]]

User:Zoda

2025-10-15T23:28:40Z

Zoda:

hello! welcome to noisebridge. can i interest you in a tour? what do you think excellence is? do you like pour-overs?

my name is zoda. i tinker! mediums include: software, wood, and sometimes electrical. i'm also very passionate about _the political philosophy_ and _governance_ of noisebridge.

----- ON GOING NOTES ABOUT NOISEBRIDGE (10/15/2025)
Fundamentals of Noisebridge:
* excellence to people and the space
* consensus process
* do-ocracy

What makes someone a good fit for the community?
* that they both contribute to and benefit from the community, while being excellent to each other

Membership:
* The process of becoming a big "M" member was purposefully created to be slow, and have obstacles.
* But, it was always the case that a Member could talk with the treasurer and agree to pay what they can afford, if $40 or $80/month is too much.
* The added responsibility includes the financial aspect

Being a Big M member means:
* automatically receiving a 24/7 key
* the ability to present a hard block to a proposal in the consensus process.

User:Zoda

2025-10-15T23:24:15Z

Zoda:

User talk:Zoda

2025-10-08T05:15:24Z

Zoda:

i like:
* noisebridge
* woodworking
* software
* nature

remember: leave things better than you found it! -

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User talk:Zoda

2025-10-08T05:15:12Z

Zoda:

User talk:Zoda

2025-10-08T05:14:25Z

Zoda:

Meeting Notes 2024 03 19

2024-03-21T21:30:40Z

Zoda:

{{meetings}}

Date: 2024_03_19

Edit the meeting number above where it says the 755th meeting of Noisebridge

[[Meeting_Notes_2024_03_12|Previous Meeting]]

[[Meeting_Notes_2024_03_26|Next Meeting]]

Note-takers: Loren, Zoda, Moon, moof

Moderators: W-ez

== Meeting Summary ==
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
- new mom system to remind people to take out trash and other things by Paolo
- new event planning: women book association, May 31st or June 1st, by Elle.
- reviving Spacebridge - chat with Elan.
- need volunteers and performers for MAPP - Sat, Apr 6 - chat with Nicole.
- wood classification class - John wants to host.
- show & tell leather work by JD & Elle - March 30th, sliding donations $10.
- projects forum recently added in discord for sharing projects and asking for help/volunteers - added by Elan
- cleaning up the nb wiki to add a single event organizing page lead by zoda
- funding from stellar foundation to build smart contracts in rust available -- talk to Dana / @nomad7831 for it
- potentially new club: nixOS -- by robert
- 6th annual dig a hole at ocean beach, this saturday posted #happening - elan
- 5 mof this thursday, come!! announced by cloud
* New members:
* New philantropist:
- hristo - signed by jd, knows Bikeshop Kelsey and CNC Ben. Approved.
* Discussion Items:
- MAPPS
- Spring cleaning micro reboot: Saturday, March 30 through Saturday, April 6.
- Bigger trash bin
- Events Guild & Signage
* Consensus Items:
- two to block - blocked
- 86 of Benjiman - not blocked/passed
- 86 of Fromsa - not blocked/passed

= Introductions =
* Many wonderful hackers!!
* Wheezy (W-ez) - creator of fall ball
* zoda - wood, software, and now hacking nb
* moon - Hardware hacker -> software hacker, hacking noisebridg
* quinn - like to work on the sewing room sometimes!
* Elan - wikipedia and spacebridge!
* Jd - laser stuff
* John - Woodworking
* Loren - infra meetup on mondays, talk to me about treasury stuff
* Christopher Robins - visiting!
* Cloud - 5mof
* Moof - Music
* Dana - Rust stuff, works for a nonprofit that does rusty grants
*Daniel - visiting from Illinois! Local makerspace is Fox.build!
* Brandon - Software hacking and recently hardware hacking
* Paolo - runs laser class when JD doesn't
* Robert- floating nixos meetup
* Nicole - old noisebridger, know about the chelsea manning event dana manetiond
* Brandon - software and recently hardware hacking
* Elle - sewing hacking and funding

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.
* Kudos to python class host
* Kudos to whoever donated label maker
* Kudos to zoda for being AWESOME community management contributions!!

= Short announcements and events =
* Paolo - "mom" system. "Hey it's mom". Automated reminders off of PA system. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Things_Mary_Says Also Dana did a version of this recently.
* Elle - woman book association are interested in having an event in noisebridge. willing to donate their profits. Either 31st of May of 1st of June. Their national meeting.
* Jd quesiton - will they have licence for selling alcohol? Elle said yes they will!
* Elan - projects forum on discord to share projects - to ask for contributors and note the people about it. [https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/1218989489616191689 #project-forum]
* Elan - he's reviving spacebridge - the official aviation/space program of Noisebridge!!, will have treasure hunting process that we can use the space.
* Nicole - MAPP - mappsf.com Mission Arts Performance Project. Nicole. big event, lot of places show off their space. we have done it before. perhaps we can do this?? we need performers! It's Sat, Apr 6 @ 12:00PM / https://mappsf.com/events
(Fb group, page, instagram linked).
* John - wood classification class he wants to host. Will talk to JD to figure out what he needs for it. He is willing to charge it for sliding donation
* JD - doing a show and tell for a leatherwork and doing some sort of structured class. Explain what he does, likes, knows, etc. Overview. Happening on the 30th, $10 Skillshare class: Leather. Talk to JD or Elle about it.
* zoda - want to make a wiki page to help others host events well. reach out if you have ideas, opinions, etc.
* Dana - stellar foundation to build smart contracts in rust for human rights causes. Posted a bit on our job-board. Contact me on discord. <<, we can bring a rust person to teahc class?? >>
* Robert - interested in hosting a nixOS meetup. not sure what the next steps are, so came here. Loren wiling to help. Paolo says he can go to wiki and stuff.
** Loren - #meetup-infra in discord. And access to Meetup page to schedule & announce.
** See on the wiki: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Hosting_an_Event and check schedule, as listed on homepage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events
* Elan - 6th annual dig a hole at ocean beach. it's on saturday, posted in the #happenings channel. Come join.
* Cloud - 5mof, 5 minutes of fame, this Thursday, Mar 21.
** Talk in #5mof discord, 5mof.net to share with friends. Come show off your projects.

= New Members/Associate Members =
What are they? Is anyone trying to become a Member or Associate Member? If not move on. No long discussions.
* hristo - new philantropist application, jd signed, we all asked question, no objections.
** Said he would leave the space if asked.
** Checklist

= Discussion Items =

== Discussion 1: Mission Arts Performance Project [MAPP] ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: performers / event hosts / tour guides
On topic:
* She seems disconnected/not here
* Follow up on Discord in '''events-forum''' forum-channel.

== Discussion 2: Spring Cleaning, Micro Reboot ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/start date/ small concensensus
On topic:Saturday, March 30 through Saturday, April 6. TODO list: https://hackmd.io/ckUMUft_QYabyLodyiqRsw
* Nicole not available, Moon talking.
* Have done this before.
* Only open for cleaning
* Lot of different things we want to do, in the list there. It is on the hackmd linked above.
* Painting the floor. ADA lines, fire exit, door swing, etc
* How would this interact with classes?
** We don't necessarily want to interfere with those.
** How do we handle events -- zoda will relay this question to her. Brandon and a few others say perhaps we should reach out to others hosting to followup with them to let them know and ask any questions.
* NOT cleaning the sewing room. They have their own system.

== Discussion 3: Bigger trash bin ==
From/Raised by: Paolo
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?] discussion...and decision.
On topic: trash, bigger bins to clean and empty the space
* Loren - we should get numbers, roughly estimating a $500 monthly i think
** side comment - need to change credit card
* Loren - we usually do a dump run. Can we do that?
* Paolo - that system has been available to us, yet no one does that. not sustainable.
* Brandon, Ken, Elan say they have done this before and can do this.
E-waste is free.
Dump run -- minimum cost $60.
They charge, not per bin, but per volume of trash per week.
What kind of material?
Shop: metal, rubber, laser - wood & acrylic
* Decision: Discuss after reboot with a massive dump run. Elan says he can help with it. People seems to be hesitant to approve. Perhaps bring specific when reducussing.

* Spending a little under $350 / mo.

== Discussion 4: Events Guild & Signage ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: Volunteers
On topic:
* Clear on Events -- events guild. Pre-event safety brief. How to run events
* Is working on signage, will bring it up later.
* Event guild - (does what???)
* Does not have bandwith for it, but wants someone to do that.
* Nicole - will not be there for the Mapps and moon says he can help.
* Loren - funny balance point, hard to volunteer others for help.
* JD - fundraising seems tricky, economy is important, do not want people who use this as a cheap event venue.
* Elle - eventbrite is important and meetup.
* Zoda - reminder that he is looking for event guild manager, not fielding concerns. Want to add that I will add a wiki for this process, closest person to a guild rn i guess.
* Brandon - happy to help with your wiki process.
* Will talk more once we have the wiki subpage ready. Zoda will prepare it, talk to others to get consensus, and then present it on the meeting.

* Elle - wanting to emphasize the idea of "event mentor".

* Trash -- 75% less expensive to use garbage, than recycling and compost.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
We-z - says it is about being considerate. it is more than the tools. it is a place of community. be excellent. do stuff do-ocratically and check people.

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence
* https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!
* https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.) TWO MINUTES MAX
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

= Guilds =
What is a guild? Interest groups. Space guild, trash guild, event guild.
* Spacers Guild

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

=== Consensus for 2 member block, for only freeform motions, temporary 3 month effect, renew ===
September 5th, 2023 proposed by Mark Renewing May 23rd Consensus Item

REVIEWING as of Feb 27th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. Would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from Mar 19, 2024]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
Author of this record: Mark

* Summary by Loren & by Zoda.
* We-z - this changes the definition of consensus. I don't think the community

* Blocked by Loren, want better reasoning, more succinct and clear writing, more community support.

=== Consensus to 86: Benjamin ===
March 12th, 2024 LX Consensus to 86 Benjamin. Recorded by Loren
* Elan - repealing someone from 86 - should take up the mediation role if we do not want to 86 them. Does not want to do it, just advocating for him.
* Elle - If there were people working with Benji, there may be a way to find a path forward for him, a path to return. Would like to think there's a path to return for him.
* Brandon - Do not have the same sympathy for Benji. He has not done anything to show that he can change.
(We-z seconded).
* Question about mediation / Zoda: Elan - I dont' have the cycles to myself. There's interest in mediation, so Benji does not leave the community in a permanent way. Someone may ask to
** Where does mediation fall: ATL, 86, mediate now?
* Return to community after 86 (or similarly during ATL) would be triggered by email to mediation list email address, which posts to slack. A community member would pick this up and facilitate their return
** Repeat from the 86 process on the wiki.
** On 6 mo ATL. It would help to have some time pass, so it feel like they're respecting the process.
** We can do mediation to lessen the 86.

* Moon: the people here, are all on very different parts of our journey. Trolls in community.
** Sleeping in the space, sure, clear 86. It seems he's been asked to leave because he.
** The concern, can't respect an ATL.

* Cloud - not sure that it should come at the expense of other members.
** Didn't want to come downstairs, with moof. After seeing the unmitigated yelling at meeting, didn't want to be around for that.
** This is an intimmidation tactic that people use.

* He was asked to leave for 6 months.
* Zoda, I tend to be vocal, point blank, when people are assholes. Others tend not to put themselves in that dangerous situation. We should take it seriously when someone speaks up. We should speak up for others.
** As W-Ez says, the single rule we have is to be excellent to each others.

* JD. Want to point out, we could put in a bunch of work to make an, effective 86. We can try to accomodate these people who are push-push-push to not go away.

It was like other folks we had to recently kick out. The circumstances that enable this, cannot hear this behavior.

* Brandon - listening to feedback, want to change opinion. At minimum, an indefinite ATL. He was notified multiple times that his behavior would lead to an 86. He was told multiple times. Open to indefinite ATL with possibility of a conditional return.

* Loren - mediation is the way to address this. It sounds like the community needs to rebuild trust. Mediation is the way to address this. I'm not sure who has what concerns. Having a mediator is how we rebuild that trust.

This does feel like, he's be fine, until there's a big issue, and then it's a coin flip whether we make a bunch of other people unwelcome in the community.

* Zoda - Benjamin is not a physically violent and dangerous person. I want that to be on the record. I'm not a soul-reader, I felt he was being a bully and seemed to enjoy it when I saw it happen. I don't think he is above being physical with people and that sucks. This was honestly incredibly stressful to me. [...] The second point is I'm glad this was done over two meetings. I've been incredibly public with my grievances. I was on the instant 86 train last meeting, I have sinced cooled down. I think 86 is the strongest tool we have and be reserved for people who are safety issues -- people who are dangerous and violent. I believe moon/quinn are proponents and believe he can be redeemed. I want to respect that. I'm willing to rescind my 86 vote in good faith.

* Elan - Context for new people. ATL and 86 are the only tools the community has to enforce its "Community Standards" and "Anti-harrasment policy". We have a cool space and community.

Other than health participation in a community -

Nicole: I rarely feel safe at the space. I have never met Benji but if I were there and Benji was acting like this in the space I would not feel comfortable.

One of the other things. I would like him to Ask To Leave.

* Typically for non-safety violations. We ask people to take some time away from the spacec, do better.

* JD. What's happening? are we seeking an 86?
** Yes. We are voting on that. If it's blocked, he stays ATL'ed for 6 months.
** 6 month ask to leave should be minimum.
* He insisted that Eagle come back immediately at 2 weeks.

* Brandon - if there is a possibility of him to return. That should only be with Mediation or some other kind of external consultation. Behaviors didn't change. I don't feel like those will change.

* Twice:
** it sounds like he would not be around in the space.
** we're trying to be considerate. It sounds like he has not done that, would not.

* Zoda:
** (directing to Moon & Quinn) Like with all do respect.... It seems like you're asking everyone else to sacrifice their safety and comfort in the community, asking you to trust them more than their community and their own experience with this person. Its a huge vote of trust when people do that.

No one likes doing this, no one wants to actually go through this process. Someone violating you is hard to process and do. It's a hard thing we have to do for the community.

It's a big ask to say we want special cases for our friends.

* Quinn: I would really like to see mediation. A lot of the community has concerns. Benji often puts himself first - such as showing up today and wanting to talk about last week's meeting, so I understand. But I want to say that he was mischaracterized as violent in the last meeting.
He does not realize when he has that energy he can be intimidating especially given his size. I do not feel he is a violent person.

I do not think he should be 86'ed.

* Ellen: (humming for self) I very much hear, the sense of unease, and should I say fear, that someone who would so misread the rules of engagement of the community, that they would show up, after being asked to leave, and break in to a room of people who don't want him there.

He's a friend of mine, in the sense of friendly via noisebridge. I have seen a friendlier side to him.

Giving folks like him, who have made mistakes, a way of redeeming themselves, is a beautiful thing in building the community. Giving him an opportunity to improve and grow and not giving up on him entirely.

With that said, I won't oppose an 86. I do argue in favor of something. I do argue in favor, as precedent, some way besides expulation, as a way they can build back trust with the community.

* Zoda: for you two advocating, do you have a way to do. Do you want mediation?
* Moon: I would volunteer to mediate when the time comes. A lot of my friends have their own issues - not normies.
* W-Ez: what does normie mean?
* Moon: Neurotypicals - a lot of folks have a hard time in this world.
I do think he has a moral code, trying to do the things that are right.
It'd ...

Elan: particularly for the cases where it's not a safety issue. Well, aggression, some people may not feel safe. I do/would like to think that we are a community, have a way back.

If someone went through the process, put in the work, we'd be receptive to them coming back.

Twice: You are currently (in this meeting) letting yourself be burned out by Noisebridge drama. NB should be a place where you are enriched, not dragged out by noisebridge drama.

Brandon - to Moon, it sounds like your life experiences are different, touch (many? tough) communities. Not everyone at nb has had the same trauma. Residual effects will be very different from their perspective. Not the first time you brought up ur experience, and be open to explore others experiences.

Moon: I definitely understand every one else's experience. I think someone should speak to the other side

Brandon: Playing devil's advocate can be fun. It seems there's a lot of clear evidence this person's behavior is not fit for noisebridge.

Nick (irl) - cede.

Zoda: this whole comment of I want to extend compassion to the person being 86'd. Don't forget to extend compassion to all of the other people in the space who dont feel safe around him.

Does anyone block on the consensus item? No one blocks.

(The standard of blocking is -- would leave the community over.)
(Or if you think noisebridge would end a community over.)

Zoda, Moon, Quinn: 86 should be resolved for someone who is a bigger danger to the community.

Twice / Brandon: I'm not against.

Nicole - we are using the energy on these problematic people versus great hackers. Our finances are not great, and we want to keep the community.

Cloud: Watching your friends go through this. The yelling, the verbal abuse. Even I felt the distress, watching from

Do we have to call police, are we going to be ok here?

Moon: does the punishment fit the crime?
Loren: it's not punishment, this is a decision to protect the community.

Ellen: Friends of benji do not need to be answerable for their opinions.

David: I've been around for a long time. I've put my blood, sweat and tears into it. If there's someone who's making someone uncomfortable, away.

I've tried to stay out of drama, all the noisebrige drama. It echoes and affects the coomunity very deeply.

Moon: nobody is saying he should get off the hook, or not be asked to leave. I'm not a member not in a position to block.

W-Ez: Motion: do any big members block the 86 of Benji from noisebridge?
It seems like no body is blocking. He get's 86ed.

One more aspect. Benji is very concerned about what that says. "it being unexcellent"
(There was another thing something said online.

Moon, it's nice, easy.

Twice, can update the 86 page, if you know the words that you want up. We should describe a behavior, so the reciprocal ban lists.

=== Consensus to 86: Fromsa ===
March 12th, 2024 LX Consensus to 86 Fromsa. Recorded by Loren
We-z: He is ATL'ed for 6 months, came to the space twice. Once he was unaware bc of my unclear wording. Second time, it was just now. We talked about it. He had objected for a bit, talked for a long time, and then left again.

Zoda: Don't know of him being violent, not seriously physically aggressive. Off the record he is an asshole. But he is unapollogetically physically intimdating and vocally aggressive. He doesn't respect the rules of the space, absolutely wishes to undermine what this place is. I do think the 86 page should be for people who are actually dangerous. Wouldn't vote, but also wouldnt block for him.

David: I've seen him being creative in the space. I've seen him in meeting, expressing concerning things, "we should change the meeting" "we should not kick people out" It seems like he isn't willing to participate within the bounds of the community.

Elle: I have been the brunt of a lot of Framsa's rudeness. Was not a good idea. He has been extremely rude to me. He has had it hard and reflects it in the way he interacts with people. I feel he can be reached. Support a return given interventions by others outside of the space.
Zoda: are you willing to do that Elle?
Elle: I don't think he'd be willing to engage in that with me. If he's willing to listen to me.

Elan: I've had similar interactions. A lot of his friction with the space (interpersonal rudeness, not t). He may have been introduced to the space differently. The lawless version of noisebridge - rather than the "Many rules, no rulers" version of Noisebridge. Definitely agree, very creative individual. I can't abide us using that as a standard for whether to enforce our community standards/anti-harassment policy. We need to enforce our rules consistently.

Coming back from a 3 month time away from the space. (* on my own terms, burnout, not ask to leave).

Loren: my standard is: Clear and present obstruction to the community functioning?

Cloud: Like are we going to be scared to come back to the meetings because someone is yelling at the door?

Brandon: From my and other's interactions, it does not seem like this is someone who is likely to change their behaviors.
I think it would be to the detriment of noisebridge to keep having them as part of the community.

David: I'm an optimist, I think there's hope for everybody. Agree with Elan, it might've been the way he was introduced.
Newcombers saying this is a place of anarchy. This undercuts the whole culture, the effort that goes into it, the way the community is run.

W-Ez: he's been asked to leave for 6 months.

Elan: it seems like there are people willing to mediate for a return. Ellen. Maybe David. Could we communicate this -- mediation willingness. Regardless of our
Zoda: same as benji. Antisocial anarchist beliefs. Will not consider others feelings. People want to advocate for him. Some definitely do not want him and do not entertain it.
Elan: Can we communicate that there are people who want to see your return and are willing to mediate your return after 6 months? Yes - Ellen and David.
Loren:
David: if someone is able, willing to go through the steps to get back in the community, they deserve a change.
Loren: It both cases it seems like there's willingness to do that.
Brandon asked about the funding of the event.
Brandon - not convinced he will be a good contribution to the space.
Loren - Seemed like he wanted to do everything by the book for the event. He was trying but perhaps there was a lot over his head. It's hard to be obviously behaving well for a whole community. I dont have concerns of the event.
Elan - He was trying to be good with the processes. Was trying to respect the ATL. Was trying to be good.

W-Ez: he chose to engage in the meetings, to "throw down" with the meeting. He would've been involved a long time.

Jd - Struggling to decide whether to block the 86 or not. I sponsored him. He does cool stuff. I think I have faith. I feel strongly that he could be good for the space. I probably wont block.

David: Separation maes the heart grow fonder. has 6 months to think about this. Can come back and 86 him then. He does amazing work and I think 6 months is a reason

Elan: I see the differences between ATL for 6mo, versus 86. Can come back by default, or arrange for mediation. Because these are not the more extreme examples for 86, it would be nice to see the mediation process work for this. Some of his behavior goes beyond being a d*ck, he made people feel unsafe. At least one of his interactions, made 2 long-term, dues-paying members say, "I'm leaving the community and not coming back". If this weren't an 86, I would like to see them wander off in.

Loren: Yes. Use mediation.

Brandon: mediation. How does process work, Elan? Lots of other people tried to engage individually. JD, Mark, ..., it. Who should engage mediation and when? How does the public engagement with mediaiton work? Where's the threshold exist.

Loren: ATL default expires. It seems like people think these issues could be resolvable.

Elan: After 6 months, the individual would have to engage the process.

Brandon: trying to ensure we've done due process, that we've done everything we can before, up to now.
W-Ez: I have
Zoda: Many people have tried talking to him.

Zoda: asking for a special case, means asking for other's concerns to be overridden.

W-Ez: Is anyone blocking?
Fromsa is not a good fit for noisebridge.
No one blocks the motion to 86 fromsa.

There's a distinction, it's not "has been rude to me". It's "prevents the community from working, together".

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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 754th Meeting of Noisebridge].

Date: 2024_03_12

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Note-takers: Loren

Moderators: Zoda

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD
Include:
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New associates:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

* Moon - long-time hw hacker, turned SWE. Coming 10 months
* Julius - coming a few months
* Judy - writer's workshop organizer
* Loren - serving as treasurer,
* Store - putting in effort to make space presentable. Coming for a few weeks, broader hackerspace community, for much longer
* Wheezy - find my game. fun fun fun
* JD -
* Zoda - working on NB now, Software engineer,
* @twiceasnice / Nicole -
* Asher - :)
* Cloud - 5mof'er,
* Elan - work on wikipedia stuff, and ..
* Daniel - @solderfumesandtea, electronics for door, gate/phone
* Griffin - work on software stuff
* [chatbot] - hi everyone chatbot here i used to come to noisebridge but its been a long time so im new but trying to be more involved i like electornics and programming!!!

= Short announcements and events =
* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)

Nicole:
1. on a positve note: mapp: performance project April 7, Saturday. Every 2 months. NB is in a cool transitional state, we could make the space freakin super nice and spring. we can be helping and productive and contributing to our community. Sring cleaning.
The 2nd thing:
October is Makerfaire - Use spring cleaning to use as a launch point: We have won '''EDITOR CHOICE AWARDS''' BEFORE!!!!! to be recognized is a big deal. Let's do a spring cleaning in a few weeks. NB make super nice state. No personal projects. Nothing ugly allowed.

NB15 prep. See #nb15.

==Event: Pixel Art Workshop==
Trey, digital artist, bob ross, happy little pixels.
Busy this month, early next month.

Projector.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

wheezy defines it as emotional intelligence

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Kudos
Zoda - maintaining a level-head through last meetings repeated, escalatory yelling

Loren - keeping a level-head & creating writers event on the wiki, enabling full participation via the wiki
Daniel RFID

Elle, BK, others - cleaning up after fashion event

CNC - from Wyatt, (thank youu). New one can do Aluminum too. Safety classes to come soon, ask Ben for more info.

= Discussion Items =
== Discussion 1: funds from 'fundraisers' ==
From/Raised by: jd
Seeking: advice
On topic:

It seems like people host events, say it's in the name of noisebridge.

The money from Club Mete sodas. Fundraise for the event? $30 is apparently the amount coming to treasury. Sounds like this would be 6 bottles at $5.

Fromsa. Sponsor.

Elle: checked in with Cheick, does not have any information about funds from the fundrasier

Fromsa, at the event, announced that
- all ticket sales
- portion of all item sales
- (something else)
would go to noisebridge

Space was packed. Full hackitorium. Probably over 50 people.

If we don't get all the sales, then that constitues fraud, in the handling of all those funds.

Wheezy has reached out. "If he doesn't reach out within 24 hours, then that's a concern."

We have recorded proof of him saying all proceeds will go to noisebridge.

Policy question may be the bigger question.

This is why is so important for all the members to know each other, trust each other. When it's just "do-ocracy, anarchism", it --- [seems not to work as well]?

Moon: Can you bring something to the next meeting ready to discuss about this as a formal policy?

Elle: can I suggest, we have a longer discussion. Fundraisers are complicated, what we want for them. Loren pointed out that an individual class could bring in more money than 2 memberships monthly.

zoda: Policy - should be a backup. We should be trusting the people who host these events or not let them. Kinda sad that we have to wonder what happened to money and mates?

loren - The wiki, creating events, we can have a template on the wiki. Elle did something like this for the writers guild

People of noisebridge eventbrite page, not created by people handling noisebridge money offically.

(Pause for door closing)

Fromsa: Sold 3 tickets, gave cash from Club Mate to Elle (gave to Ken). Some expense in

From all the yelling last time, it's not surprising .

people of noisebridge - it's a personal account credential.

Can you do a budget? I don't need to. You can put that on paper. This is not a business, this is a personal project. It's a non-profit, all this has to be accounted for.

People are touchy about money, and concerns about people taking advantage of the space. Can you help reassure others? Or is this too much for the space to ask?

Events talk page? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category_talk:Events

Fromsa needs to give the login info of People of Noisebridge Eventbrite page (made by Fromsa) to
treasurer@noisebridge.net
so Noisebridge can transparently account for the funds raised.
(screenshot is fine, should change the name though)
Event channel: look it up fundraising channels on the same subject fundraising channel beyond that.

Whoever is responsible for wiki?

message for JD - events

All your resources discord chat taking responsibility for that

== Discussion 2: Unexcellence at Meeting ==
From/Raised by:JD
Seeking: decision
On topic: Benjamin

JD: People continunally ignored Ask to leave.
Fomsa left the space
Benji just stepped back in the doorway.

This isn't the first time Benji has been disruptive. Mediation meeting with sam and john. How much do we let this slide?

We let fomsa slide with a lot.

Time to stop, step back and think a little, at what was going on. How people were behaving. Do we want to ask people to take a break from the space so they return with excellence.

Last meeting was a mess -
Some people asked to leave did leave.

lol Julius thinks nicole is new...

Zoda: It's not personal. NB is a place for excellent hacking, not personal, not respecting accessiblility. Context in a lot of meeting, n ot sure what to dow ith it. Quinn is getting

5 hours and 37 mins last meeting (March 5, 2024, Tues)
1. 86 mediation Sam and Sophia
2. Mediation: bunch of people were slamming doors, stomping close to people, physically aggressive, 3.5 hours. Mediators: Elan, Brenna, Zoda, and Loren and Sam, 5 people int he group.. (3 people were yelling seline, benjamin)
3. Every meeting has someone disrupting the que and did not respect ask to leave.
4. Sam got 86, because he is not willing to mediate.
5. John was 86 for other reasons.
6. Inciting violence, aggressive, every single meeting since then, same behavior.
7. Last meeting - John Potter was brought in, disruptive, talked over, Fromsa kept intrrupting and kept being asked to leave, fromsa left but came back, 5-6 people kept disrupting the meeting intruptting over and over again.
8. stone was also asked to leave.
9. People were blocked from leaving???

that friday meeting- Benji asked Loren to step outside and yell at Loren, in Zoda's words.
Loren and sam both recorded the meeeting and will share but not online distrbute the recording publically...

Quinn: Those issues were things we needed to address. Sam and John - 86, to process as a community.

Sam sent a letter: all of my friends feverishly rushing to my aid when what they shouldve done was urge me to apologize.

Sam is threatening legal action, be wary fo communicating with him

Cloud - emphasize what Nicole said, that Sam has made legal threats, and he's used, just in February, lots of re-using peoples' words "against them". I wish I could laugh it off, many many names, most of active noisebridgers, were invoked to attack other people in the space. Lots

If you speak to these people you words will get twisted around.

Elle: Would it be helpful to talk to a legal aid group. Their threats should not stop us from enforcing our policies.

Nicole: Not a loss. Good for us to realize these threats mean nothing.

Sam threatened with Nicole with legal action.

Alex: Observered, concerned.
Moon brought up: electornics space, freeze user joining, alt-account posting angry things on discord.

Loren: Account Annie Anarchist, Sam's - sockpuppet - pretty blatant, not really a concern.

Consensus - meetings we try not to specify because people don't follow it.

it seems - democratic enough - SFPD tresspassing on the space - should that number be on the 86 page so its readily referencable - place easily find it.

someone has a number - nicole... why

Should we have SFPD case numbers on the 86 page? (Broad agreement, yes.)

JD - Particularly respository to record unexcellence? should that be public or private

loren: Mutual ban policy with sudo-room. They have an ask to leave process for a year.
Prefer not making it so legiable how far you could push before being banned -
More systemic issues sudoroom - a year.. could not hear

It turns into the public shame board seems like a new thing to optimize for - networks of people -

Loren: Public facing - one way of working on this: personal accounts: anyone with process of these user pages - requests for the space - these are my words - but I am one person if other people can check these - agree or not -

zoda: Practically, speaking this is happening now. What do we do about misbehavior in meetings currently?

Alex: Work on New people general idea - don't ask if they have read this pages - hint aggressively to these pages - not working and do work - people who join read these - tragic - tragic when a happy noisebridger didnt' know about past mistakes in the past:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence

Loren: Updating membership form, for initials from applicant: "I understand these standards"

ken had asked Fromsa to stay away so rest of us could go to the sewing room (informal, that was hersay) one week thing - personally think - did we discuss this here at the Teusday meeting? We do or we don't. Excellent if other people were asked to take a break for a while.

Loren: Metacomment discussion - anarchist thing works: if there is an issue to make a clear expression of concern - be the person who makes the claim - let the group agree or disagree and moderate it can work some other way comments have to come from someone - when a group doesn't no one takes responsibility nothing happens.

User pages, to give personal accounts of the things happening.

== Discussion 3: Benjamin ==
From/Raised by: Zoda
Seeking: decision

Zoda: 1.5 years member. Known Benjamin. On friday meeting - talk to make sure Sam deosn't get 86.

Benjamin asked Loren to step outside and talk.
Benjamin was yelling at Loren. All unexcellent. Upset. aggressive. Physically aggressive. 3.5 hours. Storming. Comply to varying degrees. Acting like they didn't do it. Bullying behavior. More people were interested in asking hard questions, not answer, and yell. Not even throught he first sentence they would get up and walk out of the room. Excert force by getting loud.

Benjamin was not here to be a part about the subject.
The behavior is very consistent.
Act agggressive, storms off.5.5 hours meeting: benjamin left early. all that was outright bullying. It was not caring for the space. Slamming doors - Physically - yelling someone 3 people came out, storming around, yelling and walking away, yelling and walking away, emotionally exhausting. Feb and Jan - this is early conversation with benjamin destructive, rude, does not participate in a way that feels excellent.

How much more do we tolerate from Benjamin's behavior?

Observation: 86 behavior.
Page out of Mark's book:

Actionable take responsibility here: Subject of Benjamin
* Should be 86'd. Seconded

Physically abusive behavior. Verbally abusive Behavior. Benjiman pushed John as well. Sometimes it feels like people care more about these people having tantrums in the space than the people who have to deal with them.

ATL: 86.
Zoda There is a track of 86' on bravespace of that interaciton. I have told him this in person too. I've been very public and transparent about my own interactions.

Loren Zoda could you help? People talk fast. :(

Benjamin physically pushed equipment is his. Taking stuff away from the space to your home is never accessible. Is that wheezy? Bejamin pushed wheezy????? wtf
We-Z: he was physical with me as well. pushed, stepped on shoes, etc Stole from noisebridge and perhaps returned?

JD - Decide as a group Benjamin has crossed a line:
1. Asked to leave (6 months to reflect on his actions with a renewed perspective extended ask to leave and refuses that - then we are in the same boat as sam and john, you could either go away and come back.

2. a list of conditions: reasons why Benjamin was asked to leave and you won't be allowed to come back into the community until you have addressed all of the items on the list.

3. link request userpage:
Writing is public.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/NBRequestsForRonald

Side comment: Talked on Twitter - SF party team?
Support ask to leave - how much can we be accountable for this?

Julius - physical violence should not be a gray area. I feel like this is a nonstarter. I support the 86.

Julius: Ironic part: Having specific action items of what to address.
Interested to see what form it would take.
How would someone affirmative address that that would demostrate that change outside of the space. Be very specific about it.

Moon: I flew wiki out here. He crashed for a few weeks. somebody else was deciding what it was. ripping. acceptable. at the last meeting , everyone asked him to leave, one thing people told moon was when you are asked to leave, you are asked to leave. If there is not even that, then what are we doing here?

TK: Accommedation and respect only works when it goes both ways. initiattes and says "sorry, I would like to change this behavior - nice, accomadating, behavioral i don't think its good for anyone including that person. The default should be responsibility. If you are asked to leave - if you are repeatedly do not leave, then you are asked.

Loren: We have a habit of escalating to 86. We have ask to leave at the moment. the 86 has been for a few months - its easy to prove that next step is very clear.

Tk: This behavior that happened last week, were there signs of it before?

Multiple People : Yes

TK: Then you should have started this earlier.

Asking someone to leave - we couldn't have htem before and now we have them.

Context: there is limited pool of people who wanted to deal with these topics.

Nicole: Reality is violent people don't just wake up one day and "people don't like it when I wake up and violent" they do it because they are entitled and do not respect that people are feeling scared they do it because they benefit from it. It's not going to work.

We have lost people because of Benji's behavior. How much does he add to the space?
We seperate the art from the artist.
Any blockers - straight up 86 him.
When we asked him to leave, he did not, this has been a problem for some time, this is not going to be a surprise to Benji.

That process - accountable - won't do it again.
That is a lot of energy on everyone else - last month - constant one fire after another. Personally, I would not take on that burden to wait for Benjamin's character to change.

Danger signs; people still come back in John and Eagle. ATL without letter stuff. John came back into the space, trying to reaffirm this.

JD: Reading the room: it looks like we have a consensus for an 86.

Quinn: would like to see a 6 month atl, personally. not listening to atl (last meeting) is bad but not unforgivable.

Elan: More public on what we should do about this.
Consquences: safety issues verses non safety issues. Interpesronal conflict. talk to someone.. mediation. 86 depending. We all agree - we address these issues. safety concern and short-cut. Recent events: awkard situation: this is what previous people have done. Consent on it, and turn it into a poster. "How someoneg gets 86" Publicize the process. Posters and Wiki.

Loren: Shortest version: demembering. board terminated membership. Board claim to do anything. Telling the 86. Letting sentence: john came back. public.

Elle: this is not Benji in an isolated incident. this is a whole group of people who egged each other on over time.

Elle: Worse activities over time- fruit of John and sam. but it was sam and john potter and benji and others were supporting johnpotter and sam, that caboll encouraged each toher to get worse and worse and worse. Arguing in the space - verbally attacking women and making to feel uncomfortable in the space and those women got up and left. they had all left at once. existential issue for noisebridge: How we handle it: defines us. A bunch of people do negative things: break into noisebridge, negative stuff around this cabol. vote 86.

TK: As much as I am in favor of gving people 2nd chanecs, it shouldnt be intitated by people who have trespassed. If he reached out and said he was sorry.

We-z: Emotional intelligence: is the most important part of excellence.

TK: If you recallibrate: there are rules and he broke them and he broke them repeatedly and you did not bother to call up and text (my brain had overboiled and whaterever).

Alex: the process we have is that a simultanious immediate ask to leave: motion that could pass tonight to 86 then that consensus process becomes final over the next 2 weeks. in agreement: the ask to leave takes effect immediately. There is no delay in the effect. Did it go through the consensus process before it becomes final.

Loren: Consensus process; affirmation process twice. We can do this officially later in the meeting.

Consesus: details of why it doesn't need to be there to written if there is motion to 86 this person, if anyone objects then we go through the process.

Zoda: Get on the record: he did apologize. I have been communicating with him the whole time and regardless, not okay. it's about noisebridge overall, not just about me. Its' about wheezy, and JD.

Moon: What is the process? Is anyone going to block consensus? Does it move forward but gets moved.

Does anyone object to an ask to leave for Benjamin: 6 months, anyone objects? And we will proceed with the 86 consensus item. Asked to leave for 6 months. Immediate ATL - next meeting the 86 will be proposed on the consensus item.

Elan: Benji only apologized after publically asking he is 86'ed in discord

Attacking women who expressed discomfort with being in the space.

Volunteered to talk to Benjiman - Moon.

==Discussion 3.5: Fromsa==
raised by: loren
seeking: decsion
topic: fromsa 86

1. During the fashion show, Fromsa brought in Eagle brought in on 86.

2. Aggression toward others. As Elle says, accusing others of racisms

3. Bringing Benji as he was ATL

4. Use of sewing room in completely messy state for 2 weeks in lead up to fashion show. Making it unsuable for others.

5. Dropping F bombs all over the place discord and in person.

6. Encouraging others to break into the building when key was not available

7. Mocking women who felt unsafe in the space and -- calling people racist? --

8. "Noisebridge doesn't have rules, access to all ??. Come into the space and define it as I want to." ?? wip Basically commenting that it doesnt have to be excellent to others.

9. Another similarity: did not listen to ATL at the very least last meeting.

9.5. Yelled and stormed around that meeting on friday where beji and saleem.

10. Benji made it into an accusastion - I don't udnerstand how - someone who incited legal action over their opinion.

11. Fromsa encouraged someone else (crypto ben) to climb over the window.

12.

If somebody is asked to leave ...

Bringing Eagle in (Eagle is 86).

Has anyone sat down with Fromsa and had a conversation?
Fromsa don't come to the Tues meeting - palce you yell and interrupt people. and fromsa respected Ask to leave (he has self-respect). Frosma also agreed not to come to this Tues meeting because of last week's disruption.

Two options:
1. 86
2. ATL?

For me: Benji is my friend he violated a rule. If you are asked to leave, you leave. But that was not the case for fromsa - he actually left.

But I am not in the sewing room.
Fromsa is a hacker, he's doing things and not ripping things apart.
If people are negatively pulling away to the space -they are out.
If they are contributing to the space - Frosma would adapt more and listen more than the people we've 86-.

Elle: I feel strongly: key conversations many of them were insults.
I see encouragement the same type of behavior as Benji: meetings and yelling.

His distrust of noisebridge runs deep. He feels that ATLs do not apply. He showed that at the fashion show. Had eagle come, walk the stage, paraded banned individual. Invited Benji to DJ. Had him here all night.

Lots of the fashion show, hidden f-yous to the space. "Beware the big M", "I am not a big M".

NO AUDIO
Break into noisebridge when unable to enter

Based on half the standards applied to Benjamin.
Fromsa aggressive towards other people.
Aggressive -

Elan: It feels like a lot of discorse is discerning if they are capable of changing?.. ATL, 86 so much of the concern. We are asking you to leave for these reasons: if people apologized and what could be done. 'if someone comes back and says I am sorry' give someone the option escpecially after the ATL people reflect on it - and people have time to move on.

Julius: Youre playing mind games. Your expecting to hear certain things: they are expecting to hear certain things. Rules says I have to apologize - better idea for us to set standards - rather than try to

If someone could write an apology where the recipent acctualy accept it.

zoda: Same boat as Elle. I dont think he's capable of change / atl is not worth it. I keep hearing from a lot of people saying he is not as ammendable and reasonable. If he likes you, you think he's reasonable. If youre me and elle you dont think so. Lots of conversations we are having - lots of converesations is the ATL and 86, do we think these people are capable of changing.

Same rhetoric, same aggressive tactic as Benjamin. I think they should

I had a discussion: reiterate. 6 months ask to leave and then 86.

zoda: in support of 86. Nervous talking to him. Had to ask him to close the laser cutter, was nervous to do so. Same with entering the sewing room.

alex: it sounds like we have an aggreement about the ask to leave, so we could do that first to start.

the 86 conversation would happen next weekend. Consesus items are always 2 weeks; consensus of 2nd meeting.

People are wanting to motion to 86: would anyone today block that right now?
Intel is sufficent: there is less severe behavior, more responsive. People who thought it was ATL blocked over?

Clarify: ATL is immediate, they cannot come to the next meeting. 86 is item for next meeting.

* Volunteered to talk to Fromsa - Wheezy & Elle.

Closing: If you really feel there is a way this person could listen or change their behavior in a way that other people won't believe, talk to them and get a mor ae commitment to respect ATl on a new leaf.

If you belieave in fromsa's ability to leran from this;
Thats the whole point of it not being instantaneous.
Respond to people who don't agree to

julius: where does mediation fall in this process?
This feels like an area - more ammendable - 86 into the space. Understand where that plays.

elan: If you have a conflict with an individual talk to them, nothign involving Noisebridge, just don't want to deal with them but Noisebridge is an ask to disengage is a formal process. Leave it there or request mediation which is intitated - Alice and Bob don't want to talk to each other, jump in - ask to leave is either a safety thing or you see a pass - those were the two places to get to the mediation - follow that process and get people to et something to agree to. At that point: some of the recent mediation: some parties were intent on pursuing an 86.

If conflict comes up,

Could someone else take over notes, I am crashing...

Someone apologize enough: it should be a requirement a 3rd person could stand up and advocate for this person to stay. Accusation: there should be a note: accusasion and racism and sexism and that should be a violation of unexcellence.

zoda: Part of the mediation process, Friday. Frist time I mediated: the way was some people were 'I would love to mediate and work with it" raised that - worked well with people who accepted that. Continiously changing cast of characters.

Moon did ask Benji to apologize and he said "I know what I am doing". "Don't have an ego" I would be defending him a lot more if...

Ask to Disengage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Mediation
Ask to Leave.

The 2 times he was asked to leave, during the meeting. Came back.

Some uncertainty about asking to leave, sewing room.

== Discussion 4: Access contol ==
From/Raised by: We-z
Seeking: decision
On topic: Access contol
Purchase proposal, for access control
We-z:
Love Deadbolt. Proposing a new App: Level Locks +
Price:350? or 280?
We need access control.
can access via app
can be controlled via wifi
can also program RFIC
multiple admins
Daniel / solderfumesandtea is open to it.
Put it in the access control channel.

Daniel:
* spent $100 on system made. Recently someone cut the wires, twice. Harden with conduits, junction boxes. Proposal.
* open to it? is that what he said?

We-Z:
hardened. No wires
easy to remove people if they are not welcomed anymore
also has key if software fails
there is also webapp

Subscription? No.
Similar pushback, like for cameras? Access before cameras.

Linked in discord already. Will add some more in Access-Control
NFC cards.

Alex: Willing to pay? idk

Elle: 2 things. 1) Bruised on the front door recently?
2) Logs. Can be subpoenaed.

TK: side of being able to tracked.

We do know that people copied RFID keys.

Daniel: some people may have already copied a card.

$5 / ea card. 4 / $20.

Sewing room (or 3d printing).

== Announced item 5: Preparing for maker faire && mapps ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: outcomes & advice
On topic: Preparing for maker faire && mapps (Javier is involved in Mission Arts Performance Project on Saturday, April 7) (is there a "job fair" or openhouse collaboration with industry discussion? that could go with the maker faire?)

Go to discord and Slack to hear more.

* Maker Faire
* Street Fair before

== Discussion 6: Signage, merch, event ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:
threadless. pyconaut & beka.
merch guild,
signs, to buy merchandise.

right now in the red, get in the back: merch, events, membership, and ___
More signage on what is membership and what it means. The 86, dont sleep here, etc
More policy, less friction to each indv member to remember all of this.

___: I had more signs before. And ??? what we need eot get out???
Moon: would love to work with you on this.
1. some of the signs are rando startups, maybe community board?
2. excelent signs are hidden
3...

Discord #wiki-documentation
Suggest #signage channel be moved to Events or About space.
Second, elle - moon have a much deeper conversation. During 5pm Tuesday meeting.

Elan - We chatted about this last meeting -- the important processes, like for events should be online on wiki. We have that wiki events page. In discord, pinned message exists but we should add that to the wiki We should have signage around the space directing people to discord and that wiki.

Based on previous issues with having people host events: Require people on discord.

Action: Let's have Event mentors!!
#events-support -> Forum style channel.

Intro documents: wiki user welcome copypasta, (event host copy pasta), posters, how to join class / guild.

Triplicate. Events, doing. Keeps space clean. Flywheel.

=== Discussion 7: formalizing conflict resolution workflow ===
From/Raised by: elan
Seeking: let's make a flowchart
On topic: how does conflict resolution work, how are rules made. how does .

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Full text:
<pre>
Renewing Consensus Item
REVIEWING as of Mar 19th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. We would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from May 23, 2023]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
</pre>

In the past, the extreme version of this. Was that someone constantly blocking. Would un-member a constant blocker. Past way to solve the problem.

Stonewalling.

No objections.

Until June 17th, 20024

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, & discussion topics.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.) https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Last_meeting&redirect=no
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting notes 2024 03 12

2024-03-14T02:23:20Z

Zoda:

{{meetings}}

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 754th Meeting of Noisebridge].

Date: 2024_03_12

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Note-takers: Loren

Moderators: Zoda

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD
Include:
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New associates:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

* Moon - long-time hw hacker, turned SWE. Coming 10 months
* Julius - coming a few months
* Judy - writer's workshop organizer
* Loren - serving as treasurer,
* Store - putting in effort to make space presentable. Coming for a few weeks, broader hackerspace community, for much longer
* Wheezy - find my game. fun fun fun
* JD -
* Zoda - working on NB now, Software engineer,
* @twiceasnice / Nicole -
* Asher - :)
* Cloud - 5mof'er,
* Elan - work on wikipedia stuff, and ..
* Daniel - @solderfumesandtea, electronics for door, gate/phone
* Griffin - work on software stuff
* [chatbot] - hi everyone chatbot here i used to come to noisebridge but its been a long time so im new but trying to be more involved i like electornics and programming!!!

= Short announcements and events =
* '''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''
* '''Copy-paste any pre-announcements for the upcoming meeting from [[Announcements]].'''
* '''After announcements, copy them to the past [[Announcements]] list. Retire any from the Next Meeting list that aren't marked ONGOING.'''
* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)

Nicole:
1. on a positve note: mapp: performance project April 7, Saturday. Every 2 months. NB is in a cool transitional state, we could make the space freakin super nice and spring. we can be helping and productive and contributing to our community. Sring cleaning.
The 2nd thing:
October is Makerfaire - Use spring cleaning to use as a launch point: We have won '''EDITOR CHOICE AWARDS''' BEFORE!!!!! to be recognized is a big deal. Let's do a spring cleaning in a few weeks. NB make super nice state. No personal projects. Nothing ugly allowed.

NB15 prep. See #nb15.

==Event: Pixel Art Workshop==
Trey, digital artist, bob ross, happy little pixels.
Busy this month, early next month.

Projector.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

wheezy defines it as emotional intelligence

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Kudos
Zoda - maintaining a level-head through last meetings repeated, escalatory yelling

Loren - keeping a level-head & creating writers event on the wiki, enabling full participation via the wiki
Daniel RFID
Elle, BK, others - cleaning up after fashion event

CNC - from Wyatt, (thank youu). New one can do Aluminum too. Safety classes to come soon, ask Ben for more info.

= Discussion Items =
== Discussion 1: funds from 'fundraisers' ==
From/Raised by: jd
Seeking: advice
On topic:

It seems like people host events, say it's in the name of noisebridge.

The money from Club Mete sodas. Fundraise for the event? $30 is apparently the amount coming to treasury. Sounds like this would be 6 bottles at $5.

Fromsa. Sponsor.

Elle: checked in with Cheick, does not have any information about funds from the fundrasier

Fromsa, at the event, announced that
- all ticket sales
- portion of all item sales
- (something else)
would go to noisebridge

Space was packed. Full hackitorium. Probably over 50 people.

If we don't get all the sales, then that constitues fraud, in the handling of all those funds.

Wheezy has reached out. "If he doesn't reach out within 24 hours, then that's a concern."

We have recorded proof of him saying all proceeds will go to noisebridge.

Policy question may be the bigger question.

This is why is so important for all the members to know each other, trust each other. When it's just "do-ocracy, anarchism", it --- [seems not to work as well]?

Moon: Can you bring something to the next meeting ready to discuss about this as a formal policy?

Elle: can I suggest, we have a longer discussion. Fundraisers are complicated, what we want for them. Loren pointed out that an individual class could bring in more money than 2 memberships monthly.

zoda: Policy - should be a backup. We should be trusting the people who host these events or not let them. Kin da sad that we have to wonder what happened to money and mates?

loren - The wiki, creating events, we can have a template on the wiki. Ee did something like this for the writers guild

People of noisebridge eventbrite page, not created by people handling noisebridge money offically.

(Pause for door closing)

Fromsa: Sold 3 tickets, gave cash from Club Mate to Elle (gave to Ken). Some expense in

From all the yelling last time, it's not surprising .

people of noisebridge - it's a personal account credential.

Can you do a budget? I don't need to. You can put that on paper. This is not a business, this is a personal project. It's a non-profit, all this has to be accounted for.

People are touchy about money, and concerns about people taking advantage of the space. Can you help reassure others? Or is this too much for the space to ask?

Events talk page? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category_talk:Events

Fromsa needs to give the login info of People of Noisebridge Eventbrite page (made by Fromsa) to
treasurer@noisebridge.net
so Noisebridge can transparently account for the funds raised.
(screenshot is fine, should change the name though)
Event channel: look it up fundraising channels on the same subject fundraising channel beyond that.

Whoever is responsible for wiki?

message for JD - events

All your resources discord chat taking responsibility for that

== Discussion 2: Unexcellence at Meeting ==
From/Raised by:JD
Seeking: decision
On topic: Benjamin

JD: People continunally ignored Ask to leave.
Fomsa left the space
Benji just stepped back in the doorway.

This isn't the first time Benji has been disruptive. Mediation meeting with sam and john. How much do we let this slide?

We let fomsa slide with a lot.

Time to stop, step back and think a little, at what was going on. How people were behaving. Do we want to ask people to take a break from the space so they return with excellence.

Last meeting was a mess -
Some people asked to leave did leave.

lol Julius thinks nicole is new...

Zoda: It's not personal. NB is a place for excellent hacking, not personal, not respecting accessiblility. Context in a lot of meeting, n ot sure what to dow ith it. Quinn is getting

5 hours and 37 mins last meeting (March 5, 2024, Tues)
1. 86 mediation Sam and Sophia
2. Mediation: bunch of people were slamming doors, stomping close to people, physically aggressive, 3.5 hours. Mediators: Elan, Brenna, Zoda, and Loren and Sam, 5 people int he group.. (3 people were yelling seline, benjamin)
3. Every meeting has someone disrupting the que and did not respect ask to leave.
4. Sam got 86, because he is not willing to mediate.
5. John was 86 for other reasons.
6. Inciting violence, aggressive, every single meeting since then, same behavior.
7. Last meeting - John Potter was brought in, disruptive, talked over, Fromsa kept intrrupting and kept being asked to leave, fromsa left but came back, 5-6 people kept disrupting the meeting intruptting over and over again.
8. stone was also asked to leave.
9. People were blocked from leaving???

that friday meeting- Benji asked Loren to step outside and yell at Loren, in Zoda's words.
Loren and sam both recorded the meeeting and will share but not online distrbute the recording publically...

Quinn: Those issues were things we needed to address. Sam and John - 86, to process as a community.

Sam sent a letter: all of my friends feverishly rushing to my aid when what they shouldve done was urge me to apologize.

Sam is threatening legal action, be wary fo communicating with him

Cloud - emphasize what Nicole said, that Sam has made legal threats, and he's used, just in February, lots of re-using peoples' words "against them". I wish I could laugh it off, many many names, most of active noisebridgers, were invoked to attack other people in the space. Lots

If you speak to these people you words will get twisted around.

Elle: Would it be helpful to talk to a legal aid group. Their threats should not stop us from enforcing our policies.

Nicole: Not a loss. Good for us to realize these threats mean nothing.

Sam threatened with Nicole with legal action.

Alex: Observered, concerned.
Moon brought up: electornics space, freeze user joining, alt-account posting angry things on discord.

Loren: Account Annie Anarchist, Sam's - sockpuppet - pretty blatant, not really a concern.

Consensus - meetings we try not to specify because people don't follow it.

it seems - democratic enough - SFPD tresspassing on the space - should that number be on the 86 page so its readily referencable - place easily find it.

someone has a number - nicole... why

Should we have SFPD case numbers on the 86 page? (Broad agreement, yes.)

JD - Particularly respository to record unexcellence? should that be public or private

loren: Mutual ban policy with sudo-room. They have an ask to leave process for a year.
Prefer not making it so legiable how far you could push before being banned -
More systemic issues sudoroom - a year.. could not hear

It turns into the public shame board seems like a new thing to optimize for - networks of people -

Loren: Public facing - one way of working on this: personal accounts: anyone with process of these user pages - requests for the space - these are my words - but I am one person if other people can check these - agree or not -

zoda: Practically, speaking this is happening now. What do we do about misbehavior in meetings currently?

Alex: Work on New people general idea - don't ask if they have read this pages - hint aggressively to these pages - not working and do work - people who join read these - tragic - tragic when a happy noisebridger didnt' know about past mistakes in the past:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence

Loren: Updating membership form, for initials from applicant: "I understand these standards"

ken had asked Fromsa to stay away so rest of us could go to the sewing room (informal, that was hersay) one week thing - personally think - did we discuss this here at the Teusday meeting? We do or we don't. Excellent if other people were asked to take a break for a while.

Loren: Metacomment discussion - anarchist thing works: if there is an issue to make a clear expression of concern - be the person who makes the claim - let the group agree or disagree and moderate it can work some other way comments have to come from someone - when a group doesn't no one takes responsibility nothing happens.

User pages, to give personal accounts of the things happening.

== Discussion 3: Benjamin ==
From/Raised by: Zoda
Seeking: decision

Zoda: 1.5 years member. Known Benjamin. On friday meeting - talk to make sure Sam deosn't get 86.

Benjamin asked Loren to step outside and talk.
Benjamin was yelling at Loren. All unexcellent. Upset. aggressive. Physically aggressive. 3.5 hours. Storming. Comply to varying degrees. Acting like they didn't do it. Bullying behavior. More people were interested in asking hard questions, not answer, and yell. Not even throught he first sentence they would get up and walk out of the room. Excert force by getting loud.

Benjamin was not here to be a part about the subject.
The behavior is very consistent.
Act agggressive, storms off.5.5 hours meeting: benjamin left early. all that was outright bullying. It was not caring for the space. Slamming doors - Physically - yelling someone 3 people came out, storming around, yelling and walking away, yelling and walking away, emotionally exhausting. Feb and Jan - this is early conversation with benjamin destructive, rude, does not participate in a way that feels excellent.

How much more do we tolerate from Benjamin's behavior?

Observation: 86 behavior.
Page out of Mark's book:

Actionable take responsibility here: Subject of Benjamin
* Should be 86'd. Seconded

Physically abusive behavior. Verbally abusive Behavior. Benjiman pushed John as well. Sometimes it feels like people care more about these people having tantrums in the space than the people who have to deal with them.

ATL: 86.
Zoda There is a track of 86' on bravespace of that interaciton. I have told him this in person too. I've been very public and transparent about my own interactions.

Loren Zoda could you help? People talk fast. :(

Benjamin physically pushed equipment is his. Taking stuff away from the space to your home is never accessible. Is that wheezy? Bejamin pushed wheezy????? wtf
We-Z: he was physical with me as well. pushed, stepped on shoes, etc Stole from noisebridge and perhaps returned?

JD - Decide as a group Benjamin has crossed a line:
1. Asked to leave (6 months to reflect on his actions with a renewed perspective extended ask to leave and refuses that - then we are in the same boat as sam and john, you could either go away and come back.

2. a list of conditions: reasons why Benjamin was asked to leave and you won't be allowed to come back into the community until you have addressed all of the items on the list.

3. link request userpage:
Writing is public.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/NBRequestsForRonald

Side comment: Talked on Twitter - SF party team?
Support ask to leave - how much can we be accountable for this?

Julius - physical violence should not be a gray area. I feel like this is a nonstarter. I support the 86.

Julius: Ironic part: Having specific action items of what to address.
Interested to see what form it would take.
How would someone affirmative address that that would demostrate that change outside of the space. Be very specific about it.

Moon: I flew wiki out here. He crashed for a few weeks. somebody else was deciding what it was. ripping. acceptable. at the last meeting , everyone asked him to leave, one thing people told moon was when you are asked to leave, you are asked to leave. If there is not even that, then what are we doing here?

TK: Accommedation and respect only works when it goes both ways. initiattes and says "sorry, I would like to change this behavior - nice, accomadating, behavioral i don't think its good for anyone including that person. The default should be responsibility. If you are asked to leave - if you are repeatedly do not leave, then you are asked.

Loren: We have a habit of escalating to 86. We have ask to leave at the moment. the 86 has been for a few months - its easy to prove that next step is very clear.

Tk: This behavior that happened last week, were there signs of it before?

Multiple People : Yes

TK: Then you should have started this earlier.

Asking someone to leave - we couldn't have htem before and now we have them.

Context: there is limited pool of people who wanted to deal with these topics.

Nicole: Reality is violent people don't just wake up one day and "people don't like it when I wake up and violent" they do it because they are entitled and do not respect that people are feeling scared they do it because they benefit from it. It's not going to work.

We have lost people because of Benji's behavior. How much does he add to the space?
We seperate the art from the artist.
Any blockers - straight up 86 him.
When we asked him to leave, he did not, this has been a problem for some time, this is not going to be a surprise to Benji.

That process - accountable - won't do it again.
That is a lot of energy on everyone else - last month - constant one fire after another. Personally, I would not take on that burden to wait for Benjamin's character to change.

Danger signs; people still come back in John and Eagle. ATL without letter stuff. John came back into the space, trying to reaffirm this.

JD: Reading the room: it looks like we have a consensus for an 86.

Quinn: would like to see a 6 month atl, personally. not listening to atl (last meeting) is bad but not unforgivable.

Elan: More public on what we should do about this.
Consquences: safety issues verses non safety issues. Interpesronal conflict. talk to someone.. mediation. 86 depending. We all agree - we address these issues. safety concern and short-cut. Recent events: awkard situation: this is what previous people have done. Consent on it, and turn it into a poster. "How someoneg gets 86" Publicize the process. Posters and Wiki.

Loren: Shortest version: demembering. board terminated membership. Board claim to do anything. Telling the 86. Letting sentence: john came back. public.

Elle: this is not Benji in an isolated incident. this is a whole group of people who egged each other on over time.

Elle: Worse activities over time- fruit of John and sam. but it was sam and john potter and benji and others were supporting johnpotter and sam, that caboll encouraged each toher to get worse and worse and worse. Arguing in the space - verbally attacking women and making to feel uncomfortable in the space and those women got up and left. they had all left at once. existential issue for noisebridge: How we handle it: defines us. A bunch of people do negative things: break into noisebridge, negative stuff around this cabol. vote 86.

TK: As much as I am in favor of gving people 2nd chanecs, it shouldnt be intitated by people who have trespassed. If he reached out and said he was sorry.

We-z: Emotional intelligence: is the most important part of excellence.

TK: If you recallibrate: there are rules and he broke them and he broke them repeatedly and you did not bother to call up and text (my brain had overboiled and whaterever).

Alex: the process we have is that a simultanious immediate ask to leave: motion that could pass tonight to 86 then that consensus process becomes final over the next 2 weeks. in agreement: the ask to leave takes effect immediately. There is no delay in the effect. Did it go through the consensus process before it becomes final.

Loren: Consensus process; affirmation process twice. We can do this officially later in the meeting.

Consesus: details of why it doesn't need to be there to written if there is motion to 86 this person, if anyone objects then we go through the process.

Zoda: Get on the record: he did apologize. I have been communicating with him the whole time and regardless, not okay. it's about noisebridge overall, not just about me. Its' about wheezy, and JD.

Moon: What is the process? Is anyone going to block consensus? Does it move forward but gets moved.

Does anyone object to an ask to leave for Benjamin: 6 months, anyone objects? And we will proceed with the 86 consensus item. Asked to leave for 6 months. Immediate ATL - next meeting the 86 will be proposed on the consensus item.

Elan: Benji only apologized after publically asking he is 86'ed in discord

Attacking women who expressed discomfort with being in the space.

Volunteered to talk to Benjiman - Moon.

==Discussion 3.5: Fromsa==
raised by: loren
seeking: decsion
topic: fromsa 86

1. During the fashion show, Fromsa brought in Eagle brought in on 86.

2. Aggression toward others. As Elle says, accusing others of racisms

3. Bringing Benji as he was ATL

4. Use of sewing room in completely messy state for 2 weeks in lead up to fashion show. Making it unsuable for others.

5. Dropping F bombs all over the place discord and in person.

6. Encouraging others to break into the building when key was not available

7. Mocking women who felt unsafe in the space and -- calling people racist? --

8. "Noisebridge doesn't have rules, access to all ??. Come into the space and define it as I want to." ?? wip Basically commenting that it doesnt have to be excellent to others.

9. Another similarity: did not listen to ATL at the very least last meeting.

9.5. Yelled and stormed around that meeting on friday where beji and saleem.

10. Benji made it into an accusastion - I don't udnerstand how - someone who incited legal action over their opinion.

11. Fromsa encouraged someone else (crypto ben) to climb over the window.

12.

If somebody is asked to leave ...

Bringing Eagle in (Eagle is 86).

Has anyone sat down with Fromsa and had a conversation?
Fromsa don't come to the Tues meeting - palce you yell and interrupt people. and fromsa respected Ask to leave (he has self-respect). Frosma also agreed not to come to this Tues meeting because of last week's disruption.

Two options:
1. 86
2. ATL?

For me: Benji is my friend he violated a rule. If you are asked to leave, you leave. But that was not the case for fromsa - he actually left.

But I am not in the sewing room.
Fromsa is a hacker, he's doing things and not ripping things apart.
If people are negatively pulling away to the space -they are out.
If they are contributing to the space - Frosma would adapt more and listen more than the people we've 86-.

Elle: I feel strongly: key conversations many of them were insults.
I see encouragement the same type of behavior as Benji: meetings and yelling.

His distrust of noisebridge runs deep. He feels that ATLs do not apply. He showed that at the fashion show. Had eagle come, walk the stage, paraded banned individual. Invited Benji to DJ. Had him here all night.

Lots of the fashion show, hidden f-yous to the space. "Beware the big M", "I am not a big M".

NO AUDIO
Break into noisebridge when unable to enter

Based on half the standards applied to Benjamin.
Fromsa aggressive towards other people.
Aggressive -

Elan: It feels like a lot of discorse is discerning if they are capable of changing?.. ATL, 86 so much of the concern. We are asking you to leave for these reasons: if people apologized and what could be done. 'if someone comes back and says I am sorry' give someone the option escpecially after the ATL people reflect on it - and people have time to move on.

Julius: Youre playing mind games. Your expecting to hear certain things: they are expecting to hear certain things. Rules says I have to apologize - better idea for us to set standards - rather than try to

If someone could write an apology where the recipent acctualy accept it.

zoda: Same boat as Elle. I dont think he's capable of change / atl is not worth it. I keep hearing from a lot of people saying he is not as ammendable and reasonable. If he likes you, you think he's reasonable. If youre me and elle you dont think so. Lots of conversations we are having - lots of converesations is the ATL and 86, do we think these people are capable of changing.

Same rhetoric, same aggressive tactic as Benjamin. I think they should

I had a discussion: reiterate. 6 months ask to leave and then 86.

zoda: in support of 86. Nervous talking to him. Had to ask him to close the laser cutter, was nervous to do so. Same with entering the sewing room.

alex: it sounds like we have an aggreement about the ask to leave, so we could do that first to start.

the 86 conversation would happen next weekend. Consesus items are always 2 weeks; consensus of 2nd meeting.

People are wanting to motion to 86: would anyone today block that right now?
Intel is sufficent: there is less severe behavior, more responsive. People who thought it was ATL blocked over?

Clarify: ATL is immediate, they cannot come to the next meeting. 86 is item for next meeting.

* Volunteered to talk to Fromsa - Wheezy & Elle.

Closing: If you really feel there is a way this person could listen or change their behavior in a way that other people won't believe, talk to them and get a mor ae commitment to respect ATl on a new leaf.

If you belieave in fromsa's ability to leran from this;
Thats the whole point of it not being instantaneous.
Respond to people who don't agree to

julius: where does mediation fall in this process?
This feels like an area - more ammendable - 86 into the space. Understand where that plays.

elan: If you have a conflict with an individual talk to them, nothign involving Noisebridge, just don't want to deal with them but Noisebridge is an ask to disengage is a formal process. Leave it there or request mediation which is intitated - Alice and Bob don't want to talk to each other, jump in - ask to leave is either a safety thing or you see a pass - those were the two places to get to the mediation - follow that process and get people to et something to agree to. At that point: some of the recent mediation: some parties were intent on pursuing an 86.

If conflict comes up,

Could someone else take over notes, I am crashing...

Someone apologize enough: it should be a requirement a 3rd person could stand up and advocate for this person to stay. Accusation: there should be a note: accusasion and racism and sexism and that should be a violation of unexcellence.

zoda: Part of the mediation process, Friday. Frist time I mediated: the way was some people were 'I would love to mediate and work with it" raised that - worked well with people who accepted that. Continiously changing cast of characters.

Moon did ask Benji to apologize and he said "I know what I am doing". "Don't have an ego" I would be defending him a lot more if...

Ask to Disengage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Mediation
Ask to Leave.

The 2 times he was asked to leave, during the meeting. Came back.

Some uncertainty about asking to leave, sewing room.

== Discussion 4: Access contol ==
From/Raised by: We-z
Seeking: decision
On topic: Access contol
Purchase proposal, for access control
We-z:
Love Deadbolt. Proposing a new App: Level Locks +
Price:350? or 280?
We need access control.
can access via app
can be controlled via wifi
can also program RFIC
multiple admins
Daniel / solderfumesandtea is open to it.
Put it in the access control channel.

Daniel:
* spent $100 on system made. Recently someone cut the wires, twice. Harden with conduits, junction boxes. Proposal.
* open to it? is that what he said?

We-Z:
hardened. No wires
easy to remove people if they are not welcomed anymore
also has key if software fails
there is also webapp

Subscription? No.
Similar pushback, like for cameras? Access before cameras.

Linked in discord already. Will add some more in Access-Control
NFC cards.

Alex: Willing to pay? idk

Elle: 2 things. 1) Bruised on the front door recently?
2) Logs. Can be subpoenaed.

TK: side of being able to tracked.

We do know that people copied RFID keys.

Daniel: some people may have already copied a card.

$5 / ea card. 4 / $20.

Sewing room (or 3d printing).

== Announced item 5: Preparing for maker faire && mapps ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: outcomes & advice
On topic: Preparing for maker faire && mapps (Javier is involved in Mission Arts Performance Project on Saturday, April 7) (is there a "job fair" or openhouse collaboration with industry discussion? that could go with the maker faire?)

Go to discord and Slack to hear more.

* Maker Faire
* Street Fair before

== Discussion 6: Signage, merch, event ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:
threadless. pyconaut & beka.
merch guild,
signs, to buy merchandise.

right now in the red, get in the back: merch, events, membership, and ___
More signage on what is membership and what it means. The 86, dont sleep here, etc
More policy, less friction to each indv member to remember all of this.

___: I had more signs before. And ??? what we need eot get out???
Moon: would love to work with you on this.
1. some of the signs are rando startups, maybe community board?
2. excelent signs are hidden
3...

Discord #wiki-documentation
Suggest #signage channel be moved to Events or About space.
Second, elle - moon have a much deeper conversation. During 5pm Tuesday meeting.

Elan - We chatted about this last meeting -- the important processes, like for events should be online on wiki. We have that wiki events page. In discord, pinned message exists but we should add that to the wiki We should have signage around the space directing people to discord and that wiki.

Based on previous issues with having people host events: Require people on discord.

Action: Let's have Event mentors!!
#events-support -> Forum style channel.

Intro documents: wiki user welcome copypasta, (event host copy pasta), posters, how to join class / guild.

Triplicate. Events, doing. Keeps space clean. Flywheel.

=== Discussion 7: formalizing conflict resolution workflow ===
From/Raised by: elan
Seeking: let's make a flowchart
On topic: how does conflict resolution work, how are rules made. how does .

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Full text:
<pre>
Renewing Consensus Item
REVIEWING as of Mar 19th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. We would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from May 23, 2023]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
</pre>

In the past, the extreme version of this. Was that someone constantly blocking. Would un-member a constant blocker. Past way to solve the problem.

Stonewalling.

No objections.

Until June 17th, 20024

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, & discussion topics.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.) https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Last_meeting&redirect=no
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting notes 2024 03 12

2024-03-14T02:19:21Z

Zoda:

{{meetings}}

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 754th Meeting of Noisebridge].

Date: 2024_03_12

[[Meeting_Notes_2023_03_05|https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2024_03_05]]

[[Meeting_Notes_2023_03_19|https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2024_03_19 ]]

Note-takers: Loren

Moderators: Zoda

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD
Include:
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New associates:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

* Moon - long-time hw hacker, turned SWE. Coming 10 months
* Julius - coming a few months
* Judy - writer's workshop organizer
* Loren - serving as treasurer,
* Store - putting in effort to make space presentable. Coming for a few weeks, broader hackerspace community, for much longer
* Wheezy - find my game. fun fun fun
* JD -
* Zoda - working on NB now, Software engineer,
* @twiceasnice / Nicole -
* Asher - :)
* Cloud - 5mof'er,
* Elan - work on wikipedia stuff, and ..
* Daniel - @solderfumesandtea, electronics for door, gate/phone
* Griffin - work on software stuff
* [chatbot] - hi everyone chatbot here i used to come to noisebridge but its been a long time so im new but trying to be more involved i like electornics and programming!!!

= Short announcements and events =
* '''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''
* '''Copy-paste any pre-announcements for the upcoming meeting from [[Announcements]].'''
* '''After announcements, copy them to the past [[Announcements]] list. Retire any from the Next Meeting list that aren't marked ONGOING.'''
* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)

Nicole:
1. on a positve note: mapp: performance project April 7, Saturday. Every 2 months. NB is in a cool transitional state, we could make the space freakin super nice and spring. we can be helping and productive and contributing to our community. Sring cleaning.
The 2nd thing:
October is Makerfaire - Use spring cleaning to use as a launch point: We have won '''EDITOR CHOICE AWARDS''' BEFORE!!!!! to be recognized is a big deal. Let's do a spring cleaning in a few weeks. NB make super nice state. No personal projects. Nothing ugly allowed.

NB15 prep. See #nb15.

==Event: Pixel Art Workshop==
Trey, digital artist, bob ross, happy little pixels.
Busy this month, early next month.

Projector.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

wheezy defines it as emotional intelligence

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Kudos
Zoda - maintaining a level-head through last meetings repeated, escalatory yelling

Loren - keeping a level-head & creating writers event on the wiki, enabling full participation via the wiki
Daniel RFID
Elle, BK, others - cleaning up after fashion event

CNC - from Wyatt, (thank youu). New one can do Aluminum too. Safety classes to come soon, ask Ben for more info.

= Discussion Items =
== Discussion 1: funds from 'fundraisers' ==
From/Raised by: jd
Seeking: advice
On topic:

It seems like people host events, say it's in the name of noisebridge.

The money from Club Mete sodas. Fundraise for the event? $30 is apparently the amount coming to treasury. Sounds like this would be 6 bottles at $5.

Fromsa. Sponsor.

Elle: checked in with Cheick, does not have any information about funds from the fundrasier

Fromsa, at the event, announced that
- all ticket sales
- portion of all item sales
- (something else)
would go to noisebridge

Space was packed. Full hackitorium. Probably over 50 people.

If we don't get all the sales, then that constitues fraud, in the handling of all those funds.

Wheezy has reached out. "If he doesn't reach out within 24 hours, then that's a concern."

We have recorded proof of him saying all proceeds will go to noisebridge.

Policy question may be the bigger question.

This is why is so important for all the members to know each other, trust each other. When it's just "do-ocracy, anarchism", it --- [seems not to work as well]?

Moon: Can you bring something to the next meeting ready to discuss about this as a formal policy?

Elle: can I suggest, we have a longer discussion. Fundraisers are complicated, what we want for them. Loren pointed out that an individual class could bring in more money than 2 memberships monthly.

zoda: Policy - should be a backup. We should be trusting the people who host these events or not let them. Kin da sad that we have to wonder what happened to money and mates?

loren - The wiki, creating events, we can have a template on the wiki. Ee did something like this for the writers guild

People of noisebridge eventbrite page, not created by people handling noisebridge money offically.

(Pause for door closing)

Fromsa: Sold 3 tickets, gave cash from Club Mate to Elle (gave to Ken). Some expense in

From all the yelling last time, it's not surprising .

people of noisebridge - it's a personal account credential.

Can you do a budget? I don't need to. You can put that on paper. This is not a business, this is a personal project. It's a non-profit, all this has to be accounted for.

People are touchy about money, and concerns about people taking advantage of the space. Can you help reassure others? Or is this too much for the space to ask?

Events talk page? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category_talk:Events

Fromsa needs to give the login info of People of Noisebridge Eventbrite page (made by Fromsa) to
treasurer@noisebridge.net
so Noisebridge can transparently account for the funds raised.
(screenshot is fine, should change the name though)
Event channel: look it up fundraising channels on the same subject fundraising channel beyond that.

Whoever is responsible for wiki?

message for JD - events

All your resources discord chat taking responsibility for that

== Discussion 2: Unexcellence at Meeting ==
From/Raised by:JD
Seeking: decision
On topic: Benjamin

JD: People continunally ignored Ask to leave.
Fomsa left the space
Benji just stepped back in the doorway.

This isn't the first time Benji has been disruptive. Mediation meeting with sam and john. How much do we let this slide?

We let fomsa slide with a lot.

Time to stop, step back and think a little, at what was going on. How people were behaving. Do we want to ask people to take a break from the space so they return with excellence.

Last meeting was a mess -
Some people asked to leave did leave.

lol Julius thinks nicole is new...

Zoda: It's not personal. NB is a place for excellent hacking, not personal, not respecting accessiblility. Context in a lot of meeting, n ot sure what to dow ith it. Quinn is getting

5 hours and 37 mins last meeting (March 5, 2024, Tues)
1. 86 mediation Sam and Sophia
2. Mediation: bunch of people were slamming doors, stomping close to people, physically aggressive, 3.5 hours. Mediators: Elan, Brenna, Zoda, and Loren and Sam, 5 people int he group.. (3 people were yelling seline, benjamin)
3. Every meeting has someone disrupting the que and did not respect ask to leave.
4. Sam got 86, because he is not willing to mediate.
5. John was 86 for other reasons.
6. Inciting violence, aggressive, every single meeting since then, same behavior.
7. Last meeting - John Potter was brought in, disruptive, talked over, Fromsa kept intrrupting and kept being asked to leave, fromsa left but came back, 5-6 people kept disrupting the meeting intruptting over and over again.
8. stone was also asked to leave.
9. People were blocked from leaving???

that friday meeting- Benji asked Loren to step outside and yell at Loren, in Zoda's words.
Loren and sam both recorded the meeeting and will share but not online distrbute the recording publically...

Quinn: Those issues were things we needed to address. Sam and John - 86, to process as a community.

Sam sent a letter: all of my friends feverishly rushing to my aid when what they shouldve done was urge me to apologize.

Sam is threatening legal action, be wary fo communicating with him

Cloud - emphasize what Nicole said, that Sam has made legal threats, and he's used, just in February, lots of re-using peoples' words "against them". I wish I could laugh it off, many many names, most of active noisebridgers, were invoked to attack other people in the space. Lots

If you speak to these people you words will get twisted around.

Elle: Would it be helpful to talk to a legal aid group. Their threats should not stop us from enforcing our policies.

Nicole: Not a loss. Good for us to realize these threats mean nothing.

Sam threatened with Nicole with legal action.

Alex: Observered, concerned.
Moon brought up: electornics space, freeze user joining, alt-account posting angry things on discord.

Loren: Account Annie Anarchist, Sam's - sockpuppet - pretty blatant, not really a concern.

Consensus - meetings we try not to specify because people don't follow it.

it seems - democratic enough - SFPD tresspassing on the space - should that number be on the 86 page so its readily referencable - place easily find it.

someone has a number - nicole... why

Should we have SFPD case numbers on the 86 page? (Broad agreement, yes.)

JD - Particularly respository to record unexcellence? should that be public or private

loren: Mutual ban policy with sudo-room. They have an ask to leave process for a year.
Prefer not making it so legiable how far you could push before being banned -
More systemic issues sudoroom - a year.. could not hear

It turns into the public shame board seems like a new thing to optimize for - networks of people -

Loren: Public facing - one way of working on this: personal accounts: anyone with process of these user pages - requests for the space - these are my words - but I am one person if other people can check these - agree or not -

zoda: Practically, speaking this is happening now. What do we do about misbehavior in meetings currently?

Alex: Work on New people general idea - don't ask if they have read this pages - hint aggressively to these pages - not working and do work - people who join read these - tragic - tragic when a happy noisebridger didnt' know about past mistakes in the past:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence

Loren: Updating membership form, for initials from applicant: "I understand these standards"

ken had asked Fromsa to stay away so rest of us could go to the sewing room (informal, that was hersay) one week thing - personally think - did we discuss this here at the Teusday meeting? We do or we don't. Excellent if other people were asked to take a break for a while.

Loren: Metacomment discussion - anarchist thing works: if there is an issue to make a clear expression of concern - be the person who makes the claim - let the group agree or disagree and moderate it can work some other way comments have to come from someone - when a group doesn't no one takes responsibility nothing happens.

User pages, to give personal accounts of the things happening.

== Discussion 3: Benjamin ==
From/Raised by: Zoda
Seeking: decision

Zoda: 1.5 years member. Known Benjamin. On friday meeting - talk to make sure Sam deosn't get 86.

Benjamin asked Loren to step outside and talk.
Benjamin was yelling at Loren. All unexcellent. Upset. aggressive. Physically aggressive. 3.5 hours. Storming. Comply to varying degrees. Acting like they didn't do it. Bullying behavior. More people were interested in asking hard questions, not answer, and yell. Not even throught he first sentence they would get up and walk out of the room. Excert force by getting loud.

Benjamin was not here to be a part about the subject.
The behavior is very consistent.
Act agggressive, storms off.5.5 hours meeting: benjamin left early. all that was outright bullying. It was not caring for the space. Slamming doors - Physically - yelling someone 3 people came out, storming around, yelling and walking away, yelling and walking away, emotionally exhausting. Feb and Jan - this is early conversation with benjamin destructive, rude, does not participate in a way that feels excellent.

How much more do we tolerate from Benjamin's behavior?

Observation: 86 behavior.
Page out of Mark's book:

Actionable take responsibility here: Subject of Benjamin
* Should be 86'd. Seconded

Physically abusive behavior. Verbally abusive Behavior. Benjiman pushed John as well. Sometimes it feels like people care more about these people having tantrums in the space than the people who have to deal with them.

ATL: 86.
Zoda There is a track of 86' on bravespace of that interaciton. I have told him this in person too. I've been very public and transparent about my own interactions.

Loren Zoda could you help? People talk fast. :(

Benjamin physically pushed equipment is his. Taking stuff away from the space to your home is never accessible. Is that wheezy? Bejamin pushed wheezy????? wtf
We-Z: he was physical with me as well. pushed, stepped on shoes, etc Stole from noisebridge and perhaps returned?

JD - Decide as a group Benjamin has crossed a line:
1. Asked to leave (6 months to reflect on his actions with a renewed perspective extended ask to leave and refuses that - then we are in the same boat as sam and john, you could either go away and come back.

2. a list of conditions: reasons why Benjamin was asked to leave and you won't be allowed to come back into the community until you have addressed all of the items on the list.

3. link request userpage:
Writing is public.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/NBRequestsForRonald

Side comment: Talked on Twitter - SF party team?
Support ask to leave - how much can we be accountable for this?

Julius - physical violence should not be a gray area. I feel like this is a nonstarter. I support the 86.

Julius: Ironic part: Having specific action items of what to address.
Interested to see what form it would take.
How would someone affirmative address that that would demostrate that change outside of the space. Be very specific about it.

Moon: I flew wiki out here. He crashed for a few weeks. somebody else was deciding what it was. ripping. acceptable. at the last meeting , everyone asked him to leave, one thing people told moon was when you are asked to leave, you are asked to leave. If there is not even that, then what are we doing here?

TK: Accommedation and respect only works when it goes both ways. initiattes and says "sorry, I would like to change this behavior - nice, accomadating, behavioral i don't think its good for anyone including that person. The default should be responsibility. If you are asked to leave - if you are repeatedly do not leave, then you are asked.

Loren: We have a habit of escalating to 86. We have ask to leave at the moment. the 86 has been for a few months - its easy to prove that next step is very clear.

Tk: This behavior that happened last week, were there signs of it before?

Multiple People : Yes

TK: Then you should have started this earlier.

Asking someone to leave - we couldn't have htem before and now we have them.

Context: there is limited pool of people who wanted to deal with these topics.

Nicole: Reality is violent people don't just wake up one day and "people don't like it when I wake up and violent" they do it because they are entitled and do not respect that people are feeling scared they do it because they benefit from it. It's not going to work.

We have lost people because of Benji's behavior. How much does he add to the space?
We seperate the art from the artist.
Any blockers - straight up 86 him.
When we asked him to leave, he did not, this has been a problem for some time, this is not going to be a surprise to Benji.

That process - accountable - won't do it again.
That is a lot of energy on everyone else - last month - constant one fire after another. Personally, I would not take on that burden to wait for Benjamin's character to change.

Danger signs; people still come back in John and Eagle. ATL without letter stuff. John came back into the space, trying to reaffirm this.

JD: Reading the room: it looks like we have a consensus for an 86.

Quinn: would like to see a 6 month atl, personally. not listening to atl (last meeting) is bad but not unforgivable.

Elan: More public on what we should do about this.
Consquences: safety issues verses non safety issues. Interpesronal conflict. talk to someone.. mediation. 86 depending. We all agree - we address these issues. safety concern and short-cut. Recent events: awkard situation: this is what previous people have done. Consent on it, and turn it into a poster. "How someoneg gets 86" Publicize the process. Posters and Wiki.

Loren: Shortest version: demembering. board terminated membership. Board claim to do anything. Telling the 86. Letting sentence: john came back. public.

Elle: this is not Benji in an isolated incident. this is a whole group of people who egged each other on over time.

Elle: Worse activities over time- fruit of John and sam. but it was sam and john potter and benji and others were supporting johnpotter and sam, that caboll encouraged each toher to get worse and worse and worse. Arguing in the space - verbally attacking women and making to feel uncomfortable in the space and those women got up and left. they had all left at once. existential issue for noisebridge: How we handle it: defines us. A bunch of people do negative things: break into noisebridge, negative stuff around this cabol. vote 86.

TK: As much as I am in favor of gving people 2nd chanecs, it shouldnt be intitated by people who have trespassed. If he reached out and said he was sorry.

We-z: Emotional intelligence: is the most important part of excellence.

TK: If you recallibrate: there are rules and he broke them and he broke them repeatedly and you did not bother to call up and text (my brain had overboiled and whaterever).

Alex: the process we have is that a simultanious immediate ask to leave: motion that could pass tonight to 86 then that consensus process becomes final over the next 2 weeks. in agreement: the ask to leave takes effect immediately. There is no delay in the effect. Did it go through the consensus process before it becomes final.

Loren: Consensus process; affirmation process twice. We can do this officially later in the meeting.

Consesus: details of why it doesn't need to be there to written if there is motion to 86 this person, if anyone objects then we go through the process.

Zoda: Get on the record: he did apologize. I have been communicating with him the whole time and regardless, not okay. it's about noisebridge overall, not just about me. Its' about wheezy, and JD.

Moon: What is the process? Is anyone going to block consensus? Does it move forward but gets moved.

Does anyone object to an ask to leave for Benjamin: 6 months, anyone objects? And we will proceed with the 86 consensus item. Asked to leave for 6 months. Immediate ATL - next meeting the 86 will be proposed on the consensus item.

Elan: Benji only apologized after publically asking he is 86'ed in discord

Attacking women who expressed discomfort with being in the space.

Volunteered to talk to Benjiman - Moon.

==Discussion 3.5: Fromsa==
raised by: loren
seeking: decsion
topic: fromsa 86

1. During the fashion show, Fromsa brought in Eagle brought in on 86.

2. Aggression toward others. As Elle says, accusing others of racisms

3. Bringing Benji as he was ATL

4. Use of sewing room in completely messy state for 2 weeks in lead up to fashion show. Making it unsuable for others.

5. Dropping F bombs all over the place discord and in person.

6. Encouraging others to break into the building when key was not available

7. Mocking women who felt unsafe in the space and -- calling people racist? --

8. "Noisebridge doesn't have rules, access to all ??. Come into the space and define it as I want to." ?? wip Basically commenting that it doesnt have to be excellent to others.

9. Another similarity: did not listen to ATL at the very least last meeting.

9.5. Yelled and stormed around that meeting on friday where beji and saleem.

10. Benji made it into an accusastion - I don't udnerstand how - someone who incited legal action over their opinion.

11. Fromsa encouraged someone else (crypto ben) to climb over the window.

12.

If somebody is asked to leave ...

Bringing Eagle in (Eagle is 86).

Has anyone sat down with Fromsa and had a conversation?
Fromsa don't come to the Tues meeting - palce you yell and interrupt people. and fromsa respected Ask to leave (he has self-respect). Frosma also agreed not to come to this Tues meeting because of last week's disruption.

Two options:
1. 86
2. ATL?

For me: Benji is my friend he violated a rule. If you are asked to leave, you leave. But that was not the case for fromsa - he actually left.

But I am not in the sewing room.
Fromsa is a hacker, he's doing things and not ripping things apart.
If people are negatively pulling away to the space -they are out.
If they are contributing to the space - Frosma would adapt more and listen more than the people we've 86-.

Elle: I feel strongly: key conversations many of them were insults.
I see encouragement the same type of behavior as Benji: meetings and yelling.

His distrust of noisebridge runs deep. He feels that ATLs do not apply. He showed that at the fashion show. Had eagle come, walk the stage, paraded banned individual. Invited Benji to DJ. Had him here all night.

Lots of the fashion show, hidden f-yous to the space. "Beware the big M", "I am not a big M".

NO AUDIO
Break into noisebridge when unable to enter

Based on half the standards applied to Benjamin.
Fromsa aggressive towards other people.
Aggressive -

Elan: It feels like a lot of discorse is discerning if they are capable of changing?.. ATL, 86 so much of the concern. We are asking you to leave for these reasons: if people apologized and what could be done. 'if someone comes back and says I am sorry' give someone the option escpecially after the ATL people reflect on it - and people have time to move on.

Julius: Youre playing mind games. Your expecting to hear certain things: they are expecting to hear certain things. Rules says I have to apologize - better idea for us to set standards - rather than try to

If someone could write an apology where the recipent acctualy accept it.

zoda: Same boat as Elle. I dont think he's capable of change / atl is not worth it. I keep hearing from a lot of people saying he is not as ammendable and reasonable. If he likes you, you think he's reasonable. If youre me and elle you dont think so. Lots of conversations we are having - lots of converesations is the ATL and 86, do we think these people are capable of changing.

Same rhetoric, same aggressive tactic as Benjamin. I think they should

I had a discussion: reiterate. 6 months ask to leave and then 86.

zoda: in support of 86. Nervous talking to him. Had to ask him to close the laser cutter, was nervous to do so. Same with entering the sewing room.

alex: it sounds like we have an aggreement about the ask to leave, so we could do that first to start.

the 86 conversation would happen next weekend. Consesus items are always 2 weeks; consensus of 2nd meeting.

People are wanting to motion to 86: would anyone today block that right now?
Intel is sufficent: there is less severe behavior, more responsive. People who thought it was ATL blocked over?

Clarify: ATL is immediate, they cannot come to the next meeting. 86 is item for next meeting.

* Volunteered to talk to Fromsa - Wheezy & Elle.

Closing: If you really feel there is a way this person could listen or change their behavior in a way that other people won't believe, talk to them and get a mor ae commitment to respect ATl on a new leaf.

If you belieave in fromsa's ability to leran from this;
Thats the whole point of it not being instantaneous.
Respond to people who don't agree to

julius: where does mediation fall in this process?
This feels like an area - more ammendable - 86 into the space. Understand where that plays.

elan: If you have a conflict with an individual talk to them, nothign involving Noisebridge, just don't want to deal with them but Noisebridge is an ask to disengage is a formal process. Leave it there or request mediation which is intitated - Alice and Bob don't want to talk to each other, jump in - ask to leave is either a safety thing or you see a pass - those were the two places to get to the mediation - follow that process and get people to et something to agree to. At that point: some of the recent mediation: some parties were intent on pursuing an 86.

If conflict comes up,

Could someone else take over notes, I am crashing...

Someone apologize enough: it should be a requirement a 3rd person could stand up and advocate for this person to stay. Accusation: there should be a note: accusasion and racism and sexism and that should be a violation of unexcellence.

zoda: Part of the mediation process, Friday. Frist time I mediated: the way was some people were 'I would love to mediate and work with it" raised that - worked well with people who accepted that. Continiously changing cast of characters.

Moon did ask Benji to apologize and he said "I know what I am doing". "Don't have an ego" I would be defending him a lot more if...

Ask to Disengage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Mediation
Ask to Leave.

The 2 times he was asked to leave, during the meeting. Came back.

Some uncertainty about asking to leave, sewing room.

== Discussion 4: Access contol ==
From/Raised by: We-z
Seeking: decision
On topic: Access contol
Purchase proposal, for access control
We-z:
Love Deadbolt. Proposing a new App: Level Locks +
Price:350? or 280?
We need access control.
can access via app
can be controlled via wifi
can also program RFIC
multiple admins
Daniel / solderfumesandtea is open to it.
Put it in the access control channel.

Daniel:
* spent $100 on system made. Recently someone cut the wires, twice. Harden with conduits, junction boxes. Proposal.
* open to it? is that what he said?

We-Z:
hardened. No wires
easy to remove people if they are not welcomed anymore
also has key if software fails
there is also webapp

Subscription? No.
Similar pushback, like for cameras? Access before cameras.

Linked in discord already. Will add some more in Access-Control
NFC cards.

Alex: Willing to pay? idk

Elle: 2 things. 1) Bruised on the front door recently?
2) Logs. Can be subpoenaed.

TK: side of being able to tracked.

We do know that people copied RFID keys.

Daniel: some people may have already copied a card.

$5 / ea card. 4 / $20.

Sewing room (or 3d printing).

== Announced item 5: Preparing for maker faire && mapps ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: outcomes & advice
On topic: Preparing for maker faire && mapps (Javier is involved in Mission Arts Performance Project on Saturday, April 7) (is there a "job fair" or openhouse collaboration with industry discussion? that could go with the maker faire?)

Go to discord and Slack to hear more.

* Maker Faire
* Street Fair before

== Discussion 6: Signage, merch, event ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:
threadless. pyconaut & beka.
merch guild,
signs, to buy merchandise.

right now in the red, get in the back: merch, events, membership, and ___
More signage on what is membership and what it means. The 86, dont sleep here, etc
More policy, less friction to each indv member to remember all of this.

___: I had more signs before. And ??? what we need eot get out???
Moon: would love to work with you on this.
1. some of the signs are rando startups, maybe community board?
2. excelent signs are hidden
3...

Discord #wiki-documentation
Suggest #signage channel be moved to Events or About space.
Second, elle - moon have a much deeper conversation. During 5pm Tuesday meeting.

Elan - We chatted about this last meeting -- the important processes, like for events should be online on wiki. We have that wiki events page. In discord, pinned message exists but we should add that to the wiki We should have signage around the space directing people to discord and that wiki.

Based on previous issues with having people host events: Require people on discord.

Action: Let's have Event mentors!!
#events-support -> Forum style channel.

Intro documents: wiki user welcome copypasta, (event host copy pasta), posters, how to join class / guild.

Triplicate. Events, doing. Keeps space clean. Flywheel.

=== Discussion 7: formalizing conflict resolution workflow ===
From/Raised by: elan
Seeking: let's make a flowchart
On topic: how does conflict resolution work, how are rules made. how does .

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Full text:
<pre>
Renewing Consensus Item
REVIEWING as of Mar 19th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. We would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from May 23, 2023]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
</pre>

In the past, the extreme version of this. Was that someone constantly blocking. Would un-member a constant blocker. Past way to solve the problem.

Stonewalling.

No objections.

Until June 17th, 20024

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
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[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting notes 2024 03 12

2024-03-14T02:15:15Z

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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 754th Meeting of Noisebridge].

Date: 2024_03_12

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Moderators: Zoda

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD
Include:
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New associates:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

* Moon - long-time hw hacker, turned SWE. Coming 10 months
* Julius - coming a few months
* Judy - writer's workshop organizer
* Loren - serving as treasurer,
* Store - putting in effort to make space presentable. Coming for a few weeks, broader hackerspace community, for much longer
* Wheezy - find my game. fun fun fun
* JD -
* Zoda - working on NB now, Software engineer,
* @twiceasnice / Nicole -
* Asher - :)
* Cloud - 5mof'er,
* Elan - work on wikipedia stuff, and ..
* Daniel - @solderfumesandtea, electronics for door, gate/phone
* Griffin - work on software stuff
* [chatbot] - hi everyone chatbot here i used to come to noisebridge but its been a long time so im new but trying to be more involved i like electornics and programming!!!

= Short announcements and events =
* '''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''
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* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)

Nicole:
1. on a positve note: mapp: performance project April 7, Saturday. Every 2 months. NB is in a cool transitional state, we could make the space freakin super nice and spring. we can be helping and productive and contributing to our community. Sring cleaning.
The 2nd thing:
October is Makerfaire - Use spring cleaning to use as a launch point: We have won '''EDITOR CHOICE AWARDS''' BEFORE!!!!! to be recognized is a big deal. Let's do a spring cleaning in a few weeks. NB make super nice state. No personal projects. Nothing ugly allowed.

NB15 prep. See #nb15.

==Event: Pixel Art Workshop==
Trey, digital artist, bob ross, happy little pixels.
Busy this month, early next month.

Projector.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

wheezy defines it as emotional intelligence

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Kudos
Zoda - maintaining a level-head through last meetings repeated, escalatory yelling

Loren - keeping a level-head & creating writers event on the wiki, enabling full participation via the wiki
Daniel RFID
Elle, BK, others - cleaning up after fashion event

CNC - from Wyatt, (thank youu). New one can do Aluminum too. Safety classes to come soon, ask Ben for more info.

= Discussion Items =
== Discussion 1: funds from 'fundraisers' ==
From/Raised by: jd
Seeking: advice
On topic:

It seems like people host events, say it's in the name of noisebridge.

The money from Club Mete sodas. Fundraise for the event? $30 is apparently the amount coming to treasury. Sounds like this would be 6 bottles at $5.

Fromsa. Sponsor.

Elle: checked in with Cheick, does not have any information about funds from the fundrasier

Fromsa, at the event, announced that
- all ticket sales
- portion of all item sales
- (something else)
would go to noisebridge

Space was packed. Full hackitorium. Probably over 50 people.

If we don't get all the sales, then that constitues fraud, in the handling of all those funds.

Wheezy has reached out. "If he doesn't reach out within 24 hours, then that's a concern."

We have recorded proof of him saying all proceeds will go to noisebridge.

Policy question may be the bigger question.

This is why is so important for all the members to know each other, trust each other. When it's just "do-ocracy, anarchism", it --- [seems not to work as well]?

Moon: Can you bring something to the next meeting ready to discuss about this as a formal policy?

Elle: can I suggest, we have a longer discussion. Fundraisers are complicated, what we want for them. Loren pointed out that an individual class could bring in more money than 2 memberships monthly.

zoda: Policy - should be a backup. We should be trusting the people who host these events or not let them. Kin da sad that we have to wonder what happened to money and mates?

loren - The wiki, creating events, we can have a template on the wiki. Ee did something like this for the writers guild

People of noisebridge eventbrite page, not created by people handling noisebridge money offically.

(Pause for door closing)

Fromsa: Sold 3 tickets, gave cash from Club Mate to Elle (gave to Ken). Some expense in

From all the yelling last time, it's not surprising .

people of noisebridge - it's a personal account credential.

Can you do a budget? I don't need to. You can put that on paper. This is not a business, this is a personal project. It's a non-profit, all this has to be accounted for.

People are touchy about money, and concerns about people taking advantage of the space. Can you help reassure others? Or is this too much for the space to ask?

Events talk page? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category_talk:Events

Fromsa needs to give the login info of People of Noisebridge Eventbrite page (made by Fromsa) to
treasurer@noisebridge.net
so Noisebridge can transparently account for the funds raised.
(screenshot is fine, should change the name though)
Event channel: look it up fundraising channels on the same subject fundraising channel beyond that.

Whoever is responsible for wiki?

message for JD - events

All your resources discord chat taking responsibility for that

== Discussion 2: Unexcellence at Meeting ==
From/Raised by:JD
Seeking: decision
On topic: Benjamin

JD: People continunally ignored Ask to leave.
Fomsa left the space
Benji just stepped back in the doorway.

This isn't the first time Benji has been disruptive. Mediation meeting with sam and john. How much do we let this slide?

We let fomsa slide with a lot.

Time to stop, step back and think a little, at what was going on. How people were behaving. Do we want to ask people to take a break from the space so they return with excellence.

Last meeting was a mess -
Some people asked to leave did leave.

lol Julius thinks nicole is new...

Zoda: It's not personal. NB is a place for excellent hacking, not personal, not respecting accessiblility. Context in a lot of meeting, n ot sure what to dow ith it. Quinn is getting

5 hours and 37 mins last meeting (March 5, 2024, Tues)
1. 86 mediation Sam and Sophia
2. Mediation: bunch of people were slamming doors, stomping close to people, physically aggressive, 3.5 hours. Mediators: Elan, Brenna, Zoda, and Loren and Sam, 5 people int he group.. (3 people were yelling seline, benjamin)
3. Every meeting has someone disrupting the que and did not respect ask to leave.
4. Sam got 86, because he is not willing to mediate.
5. John was 86 for other reasons.
6. Inciting violence, aggressive, every single meeting since then, same behavior.
7. Last meeting - John Potter was brought in, disruptive, talked over, Fromsa kept intrrupting and kept being asked to leave, fromsa left but came back, 5-6 people kept disrupting the meeting intruptting over and over again.
8. stone was also asked to leave.
9. People were blocked from leaving???

that friday meeting- Benji asked Loren to step outside and yell at Loren, in Zoda's words.
Loren and sam both recorded the meeeting and will share but not online distrbute the recording publically...

Quinn: Those issues were things we needed to address. Sam and John - 86, to process as a community.

Sam sent a letter: all of my friends feverishly rushing to my aid when what they shouldve done was urge me to apologize.

Sam is threatening legal action, be wary fo communicating with him

Cloud - emphasize what Nicole said, that Sam has made legal threats, and he's used, just in February, lots of re-using peoples' words "against them". I wish I could laugh it off, many many names, most of active noisebridgers, were invoked to attack other people in the space. Lots

If you speak to these people you words will get twisted around.

Elle: Would it be helpful to talk to a legal aid group. Their threats should not stop us from enforcing our policies.

Nicole: Not a loss. Good for us to realize these threats mean nothing.

Sam threatened with Nicole with legal action.

Alex: Observered, concerned.
Moon brought up: electornics space, freeze user joining, alt-account posting angry things on discord.

Loren: Account Annie Anarchist, Sam's - sockpuppet - pretty blatant, not really a concern.

Consensus - meetings we try not to specify because people don't follow it.

it seems - democratic enough - SFPD tresspassing on the space - should that number be on the 86 page so its readily referencable - place easily find it.

someone has a number - nicole... why

Should we have SFPD case numbers on the 86 page? (Broad agreement, yes.)

JD - Particularly respository to record unexcellence? should that be public or private

loren: Mutual ban policy with sudo-room. They have an ask to leave process for a year.
Prefer not making it so legiable how far you could push before being banned -
More systemic issues sudoroom - a year.. could not hear

It turns into the public shame board seems like a new thing to optimize for - networks of people -

Loren: Public facing - one way of working on this: personal accounts: anyone with process of these user pages - requests for the space - these are my words - but I am one person if other people can check these - agree or not -

zoda: Practically, speaking this is happening now. What do we do about misbehavior in meetings currently?

Alex: Work on New people general idea - don't ask if they have read this pages - hint aggressively to these pages - not working and do work - people who join read these - tragic - tragic when a happy noisebridger didnt' know about past mistakes in the past:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence

Loren: Updating membership form, for initials from applicant: "I understand these standards"

ken had asked Fromsa to stay away so rest of us could go to the sewing room (informal, that was hersay) one week thing - personally think - did we discuss this here at the Teusday meeting? We do or we don't. Excellent if other people were asked to take a break for a while.

Loren: Metacomment discussion - anarchist thing works: if there is an issue to make a clear expression of concern - be the person who makes the claim - let the group agree or disagree and moderate it can work some other way comments have to come from someone - when a group doesn't no one takes responsibility nothing happens.

User pages, to give personal accounts of the things happening.

== Discussion 3: Benjamin ==
From/Raised by: Zoda
Seeking: decision

Zoda: 1.5 years member. Known Benjamin. On friday meeting - talk to make sure Sam deosn't get 86.

Benjamin asked Loren to step outside and talk.
Benjamin was yelling at Loren. All unexcellent. Upset. aggressive. Physically aggressive. 3.5 hours. Storming. Comply to varying degrees. Acting like they didn't do it. Bullying behavior. More people were interested in asking hard questions, not answer, and yell. Not even throught he first sentence they would get up and walk out of the room. Excert force by getting loud.

Benjamin was not here to be a part about the subject.
The behavior is very consistent.
Act agggressive, storms off.5.5 hours meeting: benjamin left early. all that was outright bullying. It was not caring for the space. Slamming doors - Physically - yelling someone 3 people came out, storming around, yelling and walking away, yelling and walking away, emotionally exhausting. Feb and Jan - this is early conversation with benjamin destructive, rude, does not participate in a way that feels excellent.

How much more do we tolerate from Benjamin's behavior?

Observation: 86 behavior.
Page out of Mark's book:

Actionable take responsibility here: Subject of Benjamin
* Should be 86'd. Seconded

Physically abusive behavior. Verbally abusive Behavior. Benjiman pushed John as well. Sometimes it feels like people care more about these people having tantrums in the space than the people who have to deal with them.

ATL: 86.
Zoda There is a track of 86' on bravespace of that interaciton. I have told him this in person too. I've been very public and transparent about my own interactions.

Loren Zoda could you help? People talk fast. :(

Benjamin physically pushed equipment is his. Taking stuff away from the space to your home is never accessible. Is that wheezy? Bejamin pushed wheezy????? wtf
We-Z: he was physical with me as well. pushed, stepped on shoes, etc Stole from noisebridge and perhaps returned?

JD - Decide as a group Benjamin has crossed a line:
1. Asked to leave (6 months to reflect on his actions with a renewed perspective extended ask to leave and refuses that - then we are in the same boat as sam and john, you could either go away and come back.

2. a list of conditions: reasons why Benjamin was asked to leave and you won't be allowed to come back into the community until you have addressed all of the items on the list.

3. link request userpage:
Writing is public.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/NBRequestsForRonald

Side comment: Talked on Twitter - SF party team?
Support ask to leave - how much can we be accountable for this?

Julius - physical violence should not be a gray area. I feel like this is a nonstarter. I support the 86.

Julius: Ironic part: Having specific action items of what to address.
Interested to see what form it would take.
How would someone affirmative address that that would demostrate that change outside of the space. Be very specific about it.

Moon: I flew wiki out here. He crashed for a few weeks. somebody else was deciding what it was. ripping. acceptable. at the last meeting , everyone asked him to leave, one thing people told moon was when you are asked to leave, you are asked to leave. If there is not even that, then what are we doing here?

TK: Accommedation and respect only works when it goes both ways. initiattes and says "sorry, I would like to change this behavior - nice, accomadating, behavioral i don't think its good for anyone including that person. The default should be responsibility. If you are asked to leave - if you are repeatedly do not leave, then you are asked.

Loren: We have a habit of escalating to 86. We have ask to leave at the moment. the 86 has been for a few months - its easy to prove that next step is very clear.

Tk: This behavior that happened last week, were there signs of it before?

Multiple People : Yes

TK: Then you should have started this earlier.

Asking someone to leave - we couldn't have htem before and now we have them.

Context: there is limited pool of people who wanted to deal with these topics.

Nicole: Reality is violent people don't just wake up one day and "people don't like it when I wake up and violent" they do it because they are entitled and do not respect that people are feeling scared they do it because they benefit from it. It's not going to work.

We have lost people because of Benji's behavior. How much does he add to the space?
We seperate the art from the artist.
Any blockers - straight up 86 him.
When we asked him to leave, he did not, this has been a problem for some time, this is not going to be a surprise to Benji.

That process - accountable - won't do it again.
That is a lot of energy on everyone else - last month - constant one fire after another. Personally, I would not take on that burden to wait for Benjamin's character to change.

Danger signs; people still come back in John and Eagle. ATL without letter stuff. John came back into the space, trying to reaffirm this.

JD: Reading the room: it looks like we have a consensus for an 86.

Quinn: would like to see a 6 month atl, personally. not listening to atl (last meeting) is bad but not unforgivable.

Elan: More public on what we should do about this.
Consquences: safety issues verses non safety issues. Interpesronal conflict. talk to someone.. mediation. 86 depending. We all agree - we address these issues. safety concern and short-cut. Recent events: awkard situation: this is what previous people have done. Consent on it, and turn it into a poster. "How someoneg gets 86" Publicize the process. Posters and Wiki.

Loren: Shortest version: demembering. board terminated membership. Board claim to do anything. Telling the 86. Letting sentence: john came back. public.

Elle: this is not Benji in an isolated incident. this is a whole group of people who egged each other on over time.

Elle: Worse activities over time- fruit of John and sam. but it was sam and john potter and benji and others were supporting johnpotter and sam, that caboll encouraged each toher to get worse and worse and worse. Arguing in the space - verbally attacking women and making to feel uncomfortable in the space and those women got up and left. they had all left at once. existential issue for noisebridge: How we handle it: defines us. A bunch of people do negative things: break into noisebridge, negative stuff around this cabol. vote 86.

TK: As much as I am in favor of gving people 2nd chanecs, it shouldnt be intitated by people who have trespassed. If he reached out and said he was sorry.

We-z: Emotional intelligence: is the most important part of excellence.

TK: If you recallibrate: there are rules and he broke them and he broke them repeatedly and you did not bother to call up and text (my brain had overboiled and whaterever).

Alex: the process we have is that a simultanious immediate ask to leave: motion that could pass tonight to 86 then that consensus process becomes final over the next 2 weeks. in agreement: the ask to leave takes effect immediately. There is no delay in the effect. Did it go through the consensus process before it becomes final.

Loren: Consensus process; affirmation process twice. We can do this officially later in the meeting.

Consesus: details of why it doesn't need to be there to written if there is motion to 86 this person, if anyone objects then we go through the process.

Zoda: Get on the record: he did apologize. I have been communicating with him the whole time and regardless, not okay. it's about noisebridge overall, not just about me. Its' about wheezy, and JD.

Moon: What is the process? Is anyone going to block consensus? Does it move forward but gets moved.

Does anyone object to an ask to leave for Benjamin: 6 months, anyone objects? And we will proceed with the 86 consensus item. Asked to leave for 6 months. Immediate ATL - next meeting the 86 will be proposed on the consensus item.

Elan: Benji only apologized after publically asking he is 86'ed in discord

Attacking women who expressed discomfort with being in the space.

Volunteered to talk to Benjiman - Moon.

==Discussion 3.5: Fromsa==
raised by: loren
seeking: decsion
topic: fromsa 86

1. During the fashion show, Fromsa brought in Eagle brought in on 86.

2. Aggression toward others. As Elle says, accusing others of racisms

3. Bringing Benji as he was ATL

4. Use of sewing room in completely messy state for 2 weeks in lead up to fashion show. Making it unsuable for others.

5. Dropping F bombs all over the place discord and in person.

6. Encouraging others to break into the building when key was not available

7. Mocking women who felt unsafe in the space and -- calling people racist? --

8. "Noisebridge doesn't have rules, access to all ??. Come into the space and define it as I want to." ?? wip Basically commenting that it doesnt have to be excellent to others.

9. Another similarity: did not listen to ATL at the very least last meeting.

9.5. Yelled and stormed around that meeting on friday where beji and saleem.

10. Benji made it into an accusastion - I don't udnerstand how - someone who incited legal action over their opinion.

11. Fromsa encouraged someone else (crypto ben) to climb over the window.

12.

If somebody is asked to leave ...

Bringing Eagle in (Eagle is 86).

Has anyone sat down with Fromsa and had a conversation?
Fromsa don't come to the Tues meeting - palce you yell and interrupt people. and fromsa respected Ask to leave (he has self-respect). Frosma also agreed not to come to this Tues meeting because of last week's disruption.

Two options:
1. 86
2. ATL?

For me: Benji is my friend he violated a rule. If you are asked to leave, you leave. But that was not the case for fromsa - he actually left.

But I am not in the sewing room.
Fromsa is a hacker, he's doing things and not ripping things apart.
If people are negatively pulling away to the space -they are out.
If they are contributing to the space - Frosma would adapt more and listen more than the people we've 86-.

Elle: I feel strongly: key conversations many of them were insults.
I see encouragement the same type of behavior as Benji: meetings and yelling.

His distrust of noisebridge runs deep. He feels that ATLs do not apply. He showed that at the fashion show. Had eagle come, walk the stage, paraded banned individual. Invited Benji to DJ. Had him here all night.

Lots of the fashion show, hidden f-yous to the space. "Beware the big M", "I am not a big M".

NO AUDIO
Break into noisebridge when unable to enter

Based on half the standards applied to Benjamin.
Fromsa aggressive towards other people.
Aggressive -

Elan: It feels like a lot of discorse is discerning if they are capable of changing?.. ATL, 86 so much of the concern. We are asking you to leave for these reasons: if people apologized and what could be done. 'if someone comes back and says I am sorry' give someone the option escpecially after the ATL people reflect on it - and people have time to move on.

Julius: Youre playing mind games. Your expecting to hear certain things: they are expecting to hear certain things. Rules says I have to apologize - better idea for us to set standards - rather than try to

If someone could write an apology where the recipent acctualy accept it.

zoda: Same boat as Elle. I dont think he's capable of change / atl is not worth it. I keep hearing from a lot of people saying he is not as ammendable and reasonable. If he likes you, you think he's reasonable. If youre me and elle you dont think so. Lots of conversations we are having - lots of converesations is the ATL and 86, do we think these people are capable of changing.

Same rhetoric, same aggressive tactic as Benjamin. I think they should

I had a discussion: reiterate. 6 months ask to leave and then 86.

zoda: in support of 86. Nervous talking to him. Had to ask him to close the laser cutter, was nervous to do so. Same with entering the sewing room.

alex: it sounds like we have an aggreement about the ask to leave, so we could do that first to start.

the 86 conversation would happen next weekend. Consesus items are always 2 weeks; consensus of 2nd meeting.

People are wanting to motion to 86: would anyone today block that right now?
Intel is sufficent: there is less severe behavior, more responsive. People who thought it was ATL blocked over?

Clarify: ATL is immediate, they cannot come to the next meeting. 86 is item for next meeting.

* Volunteered to talk to Fromsa - Wheezy & Elle.

Closing: If you really feel there is a way this person could listen or change their behavior in a way that other people won't believe, talk to them and get a mor ae commitment to respect ATl on a new leaf.

If you belieave in fromsa's ability to leran from this;
Thats the whole point of it not being instantaneous.
Respond to people who don't agree to

julius: where does mediation fall in this process?
This feels like an area - more ammendable - 86 into the space. Understand where that plays.

elan: If you have a conflict with an individual talk to them, nothign involving Noisebridge, just don't want to deal with them but Noisebridge is an ask to disengage is a formal process. Leave it there or request mediation which is intitated - Alice and Bob don't want to talk to each other, jump in - ask to leave is either a safety thing or you see a pass - those were the two places to get to the mediation - follow that process and get people to et something to agree to. At that point: some of the recent mediation: some parties were intent on pursuing an 86.

If conflict comes up,

Could someone else take over notes, I am crashing...

Someone apologize enough: it should be a requirement a 3rd person could stand up and advocate for this person to stay. Accusation: there should be a note: accusasion and racism and sexism and that should be a violation of unexcellence.

zoda: Part of the mediation process, Friday. Frist time I mediated: the way was some people were 'I would love to mediate and work with it" raised that - worked well with people who accepted that. Continiously changing cast of characters.

Moon did ask Benji to apologize and he said "I know what I am doing". "Don't have an ego" I would be defending him a lot more if...

Ask to Disengage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Mediation
Ask to Leave.

The 2 times he was asked to leave, during the meeting. Came back.

Some uncertainty about asking to leave, sewing room.

== Discussion 4: Access contol ==
From/Raised by: We-z
Seeking: decision
On topic: Access contol
Purchase proposal, for access control
We-z:
Love Deadbolt. Proposing a new App: Level Locks +
Price:350? or 280?
We need access control.
can access via app
can be controlled via wifi
can also program RFIC
multiple admins
Daniel / solderfumesandtea is open to it.
Put it in the access control channel.

Daniel:
* spent $100 on system made. Recently someone cut the wires, twice. Harden with conduits, junction boxes. Proposal.
* open to it? is that what he said?

We-Z:
hardened. No wires
easy to remove people if they are not welcomed anymore
also has key if software fails
there is also webapp

Subscription? No.
Similar pushback, like for cameras? Access before cameras.

Linked in discord already. Will add some more in Access-Control
NFC cards.

Alex: Willing to pay? idk

Elle: 2 things. 1) Bruised on the front door recently?
2) Logs. Can be subpoenaed.

TK: side of being able to tracked.

We do know that people copied RFID keys.

Daniel: some people may have already copied a card.

$5 / ea card. 4 / $20.

Sewing room (or 3d printing).

== Announced item 5: Preparing for maker faire && mapps ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: outcomes & advice
On topic: Preparing for maker faire && mapps (Javier is involved in Mission Arts Performance Project on Saturday, April 7) (is there a "job fair" or openhouse collaboration with industry discussion? that could go with the maker faire?)

Go to discord and Slack to hear more.

* Maker Faire
* Street Fair before

== Discussion 6: Signage, merch, event ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:
threadless. pyconaut & beka.
merch guild,
signs, to buy merchandise.

right now in the red, get in the back: merch, events, membership, and ___
More signage on what is membership and what it means. The 86, dont sleep here, etc
More policy, less friction to each indv member to remember all of this.

___: I had more signs before. And ??? what we need eot get out???
Moon: would love to work with you on this.
1. some of the signs are rando startups, maybe community board?
2. excelent signs are hidden
3...

Discord #wiki-documentation
Suggest #signage channel be moved to Events or About space.
Second, elle - moon have a much deeper conversation. During 5pm Tuesday meeting.

Elan - We chatted about this last meeting -- the important processes, like for events should be online on wiki. We have that wiki events page. In discord, pinned message exists but we should add that to the wiki We should have signage around the space directing people to discord and that wiki.

Based on previous issues with having people host events: Require people on discord.

Action: Let's have Event mentors!!
#events-support -> Forum style channel.

Intro documents: wiki user welcome copypasta, (event host copy pasta), posters, how to join class / guild.

Triplicate. Events, doing. Keeps space clean. Flywheel.

=== Discussion 7: formalizing conflict resolution workflow ===
From/Raised by: elan
Seeking: let's make a flowchart
On topic: how does conflict resolution work, how are rules made. how does .

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Full text:
<pre>
Renewing Consensus Item
REVIEWING as of Mar 19th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. We would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from May 23, 2023]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
</pre>

In the past, the extreme version of this. Was that someone constantly blocking. Would un-member a constant blocker. Past way to solve the problem.

Stonewalling.

No objections.

Until June 17th, 20024

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= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

* Moon - long-time hw hacker, turned SWE. Coming 10 months
* Julius - coming a few months
* Judy - writer's workshop organizer
* Loren - serving as treasurer,
* Store - putting in effort to make space presentable. Coming for a few weeks, broader hackerspace community, for much longer
* Wheezy - find my game. fun fun fun
* JD -
* Zoda - working on NB now, Software engineer,
* @twiceasnice / Nicole -
* Asher - :)
* Cloud - 5mof'er,
* Elan - work on wikipedia stuff, and ..
* Daniel - @solderfumesandtea, electronics for door, gate/phone
* Griffin - work on software stuff
* [chatbot] - hi everyone chatbot here i used to come to noisebridge but its been a long time so im new but trying to be more involved i like electornics and programming!!!

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Nicole:
1. on a positve note: mapp: performance project April 7, Saturday. Every 2 months. NB is in a cool transitional state, we could make the space freakin super nice and spring. we can be helping and productive and contributing to our community. Sring cleaning.
The 2nd thing:
October is Makerfaire - Use spring cleaning to use as a launch point: We have won '''EDITOR CHOICE AWARDS''' BEFORE!!!!! to be recognized is a big deal. Let's do a spring cleaning in a few weeks. NB make super nice state. No personal projects. Nothing ugly allowed.

NB15 prep. See #nb15.

==Event: Pixel Art Workshop==
Trey, digital artist, bob ross, happy little pixels.
Busy this month, early next month.

Projector.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

wheezy defines it as emotional intelligence

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Kudos
Zoda - maintaining a level-head through last meetings repeated, escalatory yelling

Loren - keeping a level-head & creating writers event on the wiki, enabling full participation via the wiki
Daniel RFID
Elle, BK, others - cleaning up after fashion event

CNC - from Wyatt, (thank youu). New one can do Aluminum too. Safety classes to come soon, ask Ben for more info.

= Discussion Items =
== Discussion 1: funds from 'fundraisers' ==
From/Raised by: jd
Seeking: advice
On topic:

It seems like people host events, say it's in the name of noisebridge.

The money from Club Mete sodas. Fundraise for the event? $30 is apparently the amount coming to treasury. Sounds like this would be 6 bottles at $5.

Fromsa. Sponsor.

Elle: checked in with Cheick, does not have any information about funds from the fundrasier

Fromsa, at the event, announced that
- all ticket sales
- portion of all item sales
- (something else)
would go to noisebridge

Space was packed. Full hackitorium. Probably over 50 people.

If we don't get all the sales, then that constitues fraud, in the handling of all those funds.

Wheezy has reached out. "If he doesn't reach out within 24 hours, then that's a concern."

We have recorded proof of him saying all proceeds will go to noisebridge.

Policy question may be the bigger question.

This is why is so important for all the members to know each other, trust each other. When it's just "do-ocracy, anarchism", it --- [seems not to work as well]?

Moon: Can you bring something to the next meeting ready to discuss about this as a formal policy?

Elle: can I suggest, we have a longer discussion. Fundraisers are complicated, what we want for them. Loren pointed out that an individual class could bring in more money than 2 memberships monthly.

zoda: Policy - should be a backup. We should be trusting the people who host these events or not let them. Kin da sad that we have to wonder what happened to money and mates?

loren - The wiki, creating events, we can have a template on the wiki. Ee did something like this for the writers guild

People of noisebridge eventbrite page, not created by people handling noisebridge money offically.

(Pause for door closing)

Fromsa: Sold 3 tickets, gave cash from Club Mate to Elle (gave to Ken). Some expense in

From all the yelling last time, it's not surprising .

people of noisebridge - it's a personal account credential.

Can you do a budget? I don't need to. You can put that on paper. This is not a business, this is a personal project. It's a non-profit, all this has to be accounted for.

People are touchy about money, and concerns about people taking advantage of the space. Can you help reassure others? Or is this too much for the space to ask?

Events talk page? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category_talk:Events

Fromsa needs to give the login info of People of Noisebridge Eventbrite page (made by Fromsa) to
treasurer@noisebridge.net
so Noisebridge can transparently account for the funds raised.
(screenshot is fine, should change the name though)
Event channel: look it up fundraising channels on the same subject fundraising channel beyond that.

Whoever is responsible for wiki?

message for JD - events

All your resources discord chat taking responsibility for that

== Discussion 2: Unexcellence at Meeting ==
From/Raised by:JD
Seeking: decision
On topic: Benjamin

JD: People continunally ignored Ask to leave.
Fomsa left the space
Benji just stepped back in the doorway.

This isn't the first time Benji has been disruptive. Mediation meeting with sam and john. How much do we let this slide?

We let fomsa slide with a lot.

Time to stop, step back and think a little, at what was going on. How people were behaving. Do we want to ask people to take a break from the space so they return with excellence.

Last meeting was a mess -
Some people asked to leave did leave.

lol Julius thinks nicole is new...

Zoda: It's not personal. NB is a place for excellent hacking, not personal, not respecting accessiblility. Context in a lot of meeting, n ot sure what to dow ith it. Quinn is getting

5 hours and 37 mins last meeting (March 5, 2024, Tues)
1. 86 mediation Sam and Sophia
2. Mediation: bunch of people were slamming doors, stomping close to people, physically aggressive, 3.5 hours. Mediators: Elan, Brenna, Zoda, and Loren and Sam, 5 people int he group.. (3 people were yelling seline, benjamin)
3. Every meeting has someone disrupting the que and did not respect ask to leave.
4. Sam got 86, because he is not willing to mediate.
5. John was 86 for other reasons.
6. Inciting violence, aggressive, every single meeting since then, same behavior.
7. Last meeting - John Potter was brought in, disruptive, talked over, Fromsa kept intrrupting and kept being asked to leave, fromsa left but came back, 5-6 people kept disrupting the meeting intruptting over and over again.
8. stone was also asked to leave.
9. People were blocked from leaving???

that friday meeting- Benji asked Loren to step outside and yell at Loren, in Zoda's words.
Loren and sam both recorded the meeeting and will share but not online distrbute the recording publically...

Quinn: Those issues were things we needed to address. Sam and John - 86, to process as a community.

Sam sent a letter: all of my friends feverishly rushing to my aid when what they shouldve done was urge me to apologize.

Sam is threatening legal action, be wary fo communicating with him

Cloud - emphasize what Nicole said, that Sam has made legal threats, and he's used, just in February, lots of re-using peoples' words "against them". I wish I could laugh it off, many many names, most of active noisebridgers, were invoked to attack other people in the space. Lots

If you speak to these people you words will get twisted around.

Elle: Would it be helpful to talk to a legal aid group. Their threats should not stop us from enforcing our policies.

Nicole: Not a loss. Good for us to realize these threats mean nothing.

Sam threatened with Nicole with legal action.

Alex: Observered, concerned.
Moon brought up: electornics space, freeze user joining, alt-account posting angry things on discord.

Loren: Account Annie Anarchist, Sam's - sockpuppet - pretty blatant, not really a concern.

Consensus - meetings we try not to specify because people don't follow it.

it seems - democratic enough - SFPD tresspassing on the space - should that number be on the 86 page so its readily referencable - place easily find it.

someone has a number - nicole... why

Should we have SFPD case numbers on the 86 page? (Broad agreement, yes.)

JD - Particularly respository to record unexcellence? should that be public or private

loren: Mutual ban policy with sudo-room. They have an ask to leave process for a year.
Prefer not making it so legiable how far you could push before being banned -
More systemic issues sudoroom - a year.. could not hear

It turns into the public shame board seems like a new thing to optimize for - networks of people -

Loren: Public facing - one way of working on this: personal accounts: anyone with process of these user pages - requests for the space - these are my words - but I am one person if other people can check these - agree or not -

zoda: Practically, speaking this is happening now. What do we do about misbehavior in meetings currently?

Alex: Work on New people general idea - don't ask if they have read this pages - hint aggressively to these pages - not working and do work - people who join read these - tragic - tragic when a happy noisebridger didnt' know about past mistakes in the past:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence

Loren: Updating membership form, for initials from applicant: "I understand these standards"

ken had asked Fromsa to stay away so rest of us could go to the sewing room (informal, that was hersay) one week thing - personally think - did we discuss this here at the Teusday meeting? We do or we don't. Excellent if other people were asked to take a break for a while.

Loren: Metacomment discussion - anarchist thing works: if there is an issue to make a clear expression of concern - be the person who makes the claim - let the group agree or disagree and moderate it can work some other way comments have to come from someone - when a group doesn't no one takes responsibility nothing happens.

User pages, to give personal accounts of the things happening.

== Discussion 3: Benjamin ==
From/Raised by: Zoda
Seeking: decision

Zoda: 1.5 years member. Known Benjamin. On friday meeting - talk to make sure Sam deosn't get 86.

Benjamin asked Loren to step outside and talk.
Benjamin was yelling at Loren. All unexcellent. Upset. aggressive. Physically aggressive. 3.5 hours. Storming. Comply to varying degrees. Acting like they didn't do it. Bullying behavior. More people were interested in asking hard questions, not answer, and yell. Not even throught he first sentence they would get up and walk out of the room. Excert force by getting loud.

Benjamin was not here to be a part about the subject.
The behavior is very consistent.
Act agggressive, storms off.5.5 hours meeting: benjamin left early. all that was outright bullying. It was not caring for the space. Slamming doors - Physically - yelling someone 3 people came out, storming around, yelling and walking away, yelling and walking away, emotionally exhausting. Feb and Jan - this is early conversation with benjamin destructive, rude, does not participate in a way that feels excellent.

How much more do we tolerate from Benjamin's behavior?

Observation: 86 behavior.
Page out of Mark's book:

Actionable take responsibility here: Subject of Benjamin
* Should be 86'd. Seconded

Physically abusive behavior. Verbally abusive Behavior. Benjiman pushed John as well. Sometimes it feels like people care more about these people having tantrums in the space than the people who have to deal with them.

ATL: 86.
Zoda There is a track of 86' on bravespace of that interaciton. I have told him this in person too. I've been very public and transparent about my own interactions.

Loren Zoda could you help? People talk fast. :(

Benjamin physically pushed equipment is his. Taking stuff away from the space to your home is never accessible. Is that wheezy? Bejamin pushed wheezy????? wtf
We-Z: he was physical with me as well. pushed, stepped on shoes, etc Stole from noisebridge and perhaps returned?

JD - Decide as a group Benjamin has crossed a line:
1. Asked to leave (6 months to reflect on his actions with a renewed perspective extended ask to leave and refuses that - then we are in the same boat as sam and john, you could either go away and come back.

2. a list of conditions: reasons why Benjamin was asked to leave and you won't be allowed to come back into the community until you have addressed all of the items on the list.

3. link request userpage:
Writing is public.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/NBRequestsForRonald

Side comment: Talked on Twitter - SF party team?
Support ask to leave - how much can we be accountable for this?

Julius - physical violence should not be a gray area. I feel like this is a nonstarter. I support the 86.

Julius: Ironic part: Having specific action items of what to address.
Interested to see what form it would take.
How would someone affirmative address that that would demostrate that change outside of the space. Be very specific about it.

Moon: I flew wiki out here. He crashed for a few weeks. somebody else was deciding what it was. ripping. acceptable. at the last meeting , everyone asked him to leave, one thing people told moon was when you are asked to leave, you are asked to leave. If there is not even that, then what are we doing here?

TK: Accommedation and respect only works when it goes both ways. initiattes and says "sorry, I would like to change this behavior - nice, accomadating, behavioral i don't think its good for anyone including that person. The default should be responsibility. If you are asked to leave - if you are repeatedly do not leave, then you are asked.

Loren: We have a habit of escalating to 86. We have ask to leave at the moment. the 86 has been for a few months - its easy to prove that next step is very clear.

Tk: This behavior that happened last week, were there signs of it before?

Multiple People : Yes

TK: Then you should have started this earlier.

Asking someone to leave - we couldn't have htem before and now we have them.

Context: there is limited pool of people who wanted to deal with these topics.

Nicole: Reality is violent people don't just wake up one day and "people don't like it when I wake up and violent" they do it because they are entitled and do not respect that people are feeling scared they do it because they benefit from it. It's not going to work.

We have lost people because of Benji's behavior. How much does he add to the space?
We seperate the art from the artist.
Any blockers - straight up 86 him.
When we asked him to leave, he did not, this has been a problem for some time, this is not going to be a surprise to Benji.

That process - accountable - won't do it again.
That is a lot of energy on everyone else - last month - constant one fire after another. Personally, I would not take on that burden to wait for Benjamin's character to change.

Danger signs; people still come back in John and Eagle. ATL without letter stuff. John came back into the space, trying to reaffirm this.

JD: Reading the room: it looks like we have a consensus for an 86.

Quinn: would like to see a 6 month atl, personally. not listening to atl (last meeting) is bad but not unforgivable.

Elan: More public on what we should do about this.
Consquences: safety issues verses non safety issues. Interpesronal conflict. talk to someone.. mediation. 86 depending. We all agree - we address these issues. safety concern and short-cut. Recent events: awkard situation: this is what previous people have done. Consent on it, and turn it into a poster. "How someoneg gets 86" Publicize the process. Posters and Wiki.

Loren: Shortest version: demembering. board terminated membership. Board claim to do anything. Telling the 86. Letting sentence: john came back. public.

Elle: this is not Benji in an isolated incident. this is a whole group of people who egged each other on over time.

Elle: Worse activities over time- fruit of John and sam. but it was sam and john potter and benji and others were supporting johnpotter and sam, that caboll encouraged each toher to get worse and worse and worse. Arguing in the space - verbally attacking women and making to feel uncomfortable in the space and those women got up and left. they had all left at once. existential issue for noisebridge: How we handle it: defines us. A bunch of people do negative things: break into noisebridge, negative stuff around this cabol. vote 86.

TK: As much as I am in favor of gving people 2nd chanecs, it shouldnt be intitated by people who have trespassed. If he reached out and said he was sorry.

We-z: Emotional intelligence: is the most important part of excellence.

TK: If you recallibrate: there are rules and he broke them and he broke them repeatedly and you did not bother to call up and text (my brain had overboiled and whaterever).

Alex: the process we have is that a simultanious immediate ask to leave: motion that could pass tonight to 86 then that consensus process becomes final over the next 2 weeks. in agreement: the ask to leave takes effect immediately. There is no delay in the effect. Did it go through the consensus process before it becomes final.

Loren: Consensus process; affirmation process twice. We can do this officially later in the meeting.

Consesus: details of why it doesn't need to be there to written if there is motion to 86 this person, if anyone objects then we go through the process.

Zoda: Get on the record: he did apologize. I have been communicating with him the whole time and regardless, not okay. it's about noisebridge overall, not just about me. Its' about wheezy, and JD.

Moon: What is the process? Is anyone going to block consensus? Does it move forward but gets moved.

Does anyone object to an ask to leave for Benjamin: 6 months, anyone objects? And we will proceed with the 86 consensus item. Asked to leave for 6 months. Immediate ATL - next meeting the 86 will be proposed on the consensus item.

Elan: Benji only apologized after publically asking he is 86'ed in discord

Attacking women who expressed discomfort with being in the space.

Volunteered to talk to Benjiman - Moon.

==Discussion 3.5: Fromsa==
raised by: loren
seeking: decsion
topic: fromsa 86

1. During the fashion show, Fromsa brought in Eagle brought in on 86.

2. Aggression toward others. As Elle says, accusing others of racisms

3. Bringing Benji as he was ATL

4. Use of sewing room in completely messy state for 2 weeks in lead up to fashion show. Making it unsuable for others.

5. Dropping F bombs all over the place discord and in person.

6. Encouraging others to break into the building when key was not available

7. Mocking women who felt unsafe in the space and -- calling people racist? --

8. "Noisebridge doesn't have rules, access to all ??. Come into the space and define it as I want to." ?? wip Basically commenting that it doesnt have to be excellent to others.

9. Another similarity: did not listen to ATL at the very least last meeting.

9.5. Yelled and stormed around that meeting on friday where beji and saleem.

10. Benji made it into an accusastion - I don't udnerstand how - someone who incited legal action over their opinion.

11. Fromsa encouraged someone else (crypto ben) to climb over the window.

12.

If somebody is asked to leave ...

Bringing Eagle in (Eagle is 86).

Has anyone sat down with Fromsa and had a conversation?
Fromsa don't come to the Tues meeting - palce you yell and interrupt people. and fromsa respected Ask to leave (he has self-respect). Frosma also agreed not to come to this Tues meeting because of last week's disruption.

Two options:
1. 86
2. ATL?

For me: Benji is my friend he violated a rule. If you are asked to leave, you leave. But that was not the case for fromsa - he actually left.

But I am not in the sewing room.
Fromsa is a hacker, he's doing things and not ripping things apart.
If people are negatively pulling away to the space -they are out.
If they are contributing to the space - Frosma would adapt more and listen more than the people we've 86-.

Elle: I feel strongly: key conversations many of them were insults.
I see encouragement the same type of behavior as Benji: meetings and yelling.

His distrust of noisebridge runs deep. He feels that ATLs do not apply. He showed that at the fashion show. Had eagle come, walk the stage, paraded banned individual. Invited Benji to DJ. Had him here all night.

Lots of the fashion show, hidden f-yous to the space. "Beware the big M", "I am not a big M".

NO AUDIO
Break into noisebridge when unable to enter

Based on half the standards applied to Benjamin.
Fromsa aggressive towards other people.
Aggressive -

Elan: It feels like a lot of discorse is discerning if they are capable of changing?.. ATL, 86 so much of the concern. We are asking you to leave for these reasons: if people apologized and what could be done. 'if someone comes back and says I am sorry' give someone the option escpecially after the ATL people reflect on it - and people have time to move on.

Julius: Youre playing mind games. Your expecting to hear certain things: they are expecting to hear certain things. Rules says I have to apologize - better idea for us to set standards - rather than try to

If someone could write an apology where the recipent acctualy accept it.

zoda: Same boat as Elle. I dont think he's capable of change / atl is not worth it. I keep hearing from a lot of people saying he is not as ammendable and reasonable. If he likes you, you think he's reasonable. If youre me and elle you dont think so. Lots of conversations we are having - lots of converesations is the ATL and 86, do we think these people are capable of changing.

Same rhetoric, same aggressive tactic as Benjamin. I think they should

I had a discussion: reiterate. 6 months ask to leave and then 86.

zoda: in support of 86. Nervous talking to him. Had to ask him to close the laser cutter, was nervous to do so. Same with entering the sewing room.

alex: it sounds like we have an aggreement about the ask to leave, so we could do that first to start.

the 86 conversation would happen next weekend. Consesus items are always 2 weeks; consensus of 2nd meeting.

People are wanting to motion to 86: would anyone today block that right now?
Intel is sufficent: there is less severe behavior, more responsive. People who thought it was ATL blocked over?

Clarify: ATL is immediate, they cannot come to the next meeting. 86 is item for next meeting.

* Volunteered to talk to Fromsa - Wheezy & Elle.

Closing: If you really feel there is a way this person could listen or change their behavior in a way that other people won't believe, talk to them and get a mor ae commitment to respect ATl on a new leaf.

If you belieave in fromsa's ability to leran from this;
Thats the whole point of it not being instantaneous.
Respond to people who don't agree to

julius: where does mediation fall in this process?
This feels like an area - more ammendable - 86 into the space. Understand where that plays.

elan: If you have a conflict with an individual talk to them, nothign involving Noisebridge, just don't want to deal with them but Noisebridge is an ask to disengage is a formal process. Leave it there or request mediation which is intitated - Alice and Bob don't want to talk to each other, jump in - ask to leave is either a safety thing or you see a pass - those were the two places to get to the mediation - follow that process and get people to et something to agree to. At that point: some of the recent mediation: some parties were intent on pursuing an 86.

If conflict comes up,

Could someone else take over notes, I am crashing...

Someone apologize enough: it should be a requirement a 3rd person could stand up and advocate for this person to stay. Accusation: there should be a note: accusasion and racism and sexism and that should be a violation of unexcellence.

zoda: Part of the mediation process, Friday. Frist time I mediated: the way was some people were 'I would love to mediate and work with it" raised that - worked well with people who accepted that. Continiously changing cast of characters.

Moon did ask Benji to apologize and he said "I know what I am doing". "Don't have an ego" I would be defending him a lot more if...

Ask to Disengage, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Mediation
Ask to Leave.

The 2 times he was asked to leave, during the meeting. Came back.

Some uncertainty about asking to leave, sewing room.

== Discussion 4: Access contol ==
From/Raised by: We-z
Seeking: decision
On topic: Access contol
Purchase proposal, for access control
We-z:
Love Deadbolt. Proposing a new App: Level Locks +
Price:350? or 280?
We need access control.
can access via app
can be controlled via wifi
can also program RFIC
multiple admins
Daniel / solderfumesandtea is open to it.
Put it in the access control channel.

Daniel:
* spent $100 on system made. Recently someone cut the wires, twice. Harden with conduits, junction boxes. Proposal.
* open to it? is that what he said?

We-Z:
hardened. No wires
easy to remove people if they are not welcomed anymore
also has key if software fails
there is also webapp

Subscription? No.
Similar pushback, like for cameras? Access before cameras.

Linked in discord already. Will add some more in Access-Control
NFC cards.

Alex: Willing to pay? idk

Elle: 2 things. 1) Bruised on the front door recently?
2) Logs. Can be subpoenaed.

TK: side of being able to tracked.

We do know that people copied RFID keys.

Daniel: some people may have already copied a card.

$5 / ea card. 4 / $20.

Sewing room (or 3d printing).

== Announced item 5: Preparing for maker faire && mapps ==
From/Raised by: Nicole
Seeking: outcomes & advice
On topic: Preparing for maker faire && mapps (Javier is involved in Mission Arts Performance Project on Saturday, April 7) (is there a "job fair" or openhouse collaboration with industry discussion? that could go with the maker faire?)

Go to discord and Slack to hear more.

* Maker Faire
* Street Fair before

== Discussion 6: Signage, merch, event ==
From/Raised by: Moon
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:
threadless. pyconaut & beka.
merch guild,
signs, to buy merchandise.

right now in the red, get in the back: merch, events, membership, and ___
More signage on what is membership and what it means. The 86, dont sleep here, etc
More policy, less friction to each indv member to remember all of this.

___: I had more signs before. And ??? what we need eot get out???
Moon: would love to work with you on this.
1. some of the signs are rando startups, maybe community board?
2. excelent signs are hidden
3...

Discord #wiki-documentation
Suggest #signage channel be moved to Events or About space.
Second, elle - moon have a much deeper conversation. During 5pm Tuesday meeting.

Elan - We chatted about this last meeting -- the important processes, like for events should be online on wiki. We have that wiki events page. In discord, pinned message exists but we should add that to the wiki We should have signage around the space directing people to discord and that wiki.

Based on previous issues with having people host events: Require people on discord.

Action: Let's have Event mentors!!
#events-support -> Forum style channel.

Intro documents: wiki user welcome copypasta, (event host copy pasta), posters, how to join class / guild.

Triplicate. Events, doing. Keeps space clean. Flywheel.

=== Discussion 7: formalizing conflict resolution workflow ===
From/Raised by: elan
Seeking: let's make a flowchart
On topic: how does conflict resolution work, how are rules made. how does .

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Full text:
<pre>
Renewing Consensus Item
REVIEWING as of Mar 19th, 2024 Updating blocking requirement for big C consensus items from 1 to 2 people. Currently in order to block a big C consensus Item, we need only 1 member to block. We would like to update this number to 2 members. Perhaps the 1 member to block made sense when the community was tiny. It doesn't make sense anymore in our much larger community. If you cant convince anyone else to block with you, then maybe you just have bad ideas. The community should not have to make changes only folks with bad ideas think are good.
This change would be provisional for 3 months [from May 23, 2023]. Also would only apply for member proposed consensus items, non-member proposed consensus items would still be block able by a single member. Also only 1 member would be required to block new membership. Also if any one member would like to block, but cannot because they are alone, they can request a 1 week hold to defer decision for an additional 3rd week.
</pre>

In the past, the extreme version of this. Was that someone constantly blocking. Would un-member a constant blocker. Past way to solve the problem.

Stonewalling.

No objections.

Until June 17th, 20024

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, & discussion topics.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.) https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Last_meeting&redirect=no
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Circuit Hacking Monday

2024-03-07T02:43:44Z

Zoda:

{{electronics}}

{{headerbox}}

[currently paused. chat in our discord to figure out how you can help get it back up again!]

'''Circuit Hacking Mondays is a (mostly) weekly get-together to learn electronics and learn to solder cool stuff!'''
* You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session.
* Make a project tonight, and take it home with you!
* Most projects take about an hour to make.
* If you have your own project (advanced or simple), bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it!
* '''WHEN:''' 7:00pm till whenever -- most Mondays (on some Monday holidays, volunteer instructors might announce an Early start of 3:00pm.
* '''CHANNELS:''' This is an in-person event. If you need special accommodation, or need to do remote, let us know and we will try to help.
* '''ORGANIZERS:''' [[User:lxpk|LX]], [[User:culteejen|TJ]] [[User:Jtfoote|jonathan (rrmutt)]]
{{boxend}}

[[Category:Circuit Hacking Mondays]]
[[Category:events]]

'''Organization'''
We have split CHM into three sections, each runs approximately monthly. There will always be circuit hacking on Mondays, but volunteer instructors might be specializing as below or taking the week off. Come anyway :)

1. '''Learn to Solder Monday:''' is a monthly get-together to learn to solder electronics. You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session. Come make a project tonight, and take it home with you! We have great kits suitable for beginners, as well as all the soldering irons and tools needed to build them. Experienced volunteers are on hand to show you the basics and help out. We ask a $10-20 donation to cover kit costs. We also have more advanced kits for those with more experience. If you have your own project (advanced or simple), bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it. Every second Monday [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137488/ Meetup: Learn to Solder Monday]

2. '''Microcontroller Monday:''' Learn to program microcontrollers with Arduino or Circuit Python. This is a monthly get-together to learn about microcontrollers and how to program them. You can get started with a microcontroller project in one session and take it home with you! We have Arduino and Circuit Python microcontrollers, and a big selection of sensors and peripherals like Neopixel color LEDs.
Though any programming experience will help, this is suitable for beginners. If you have used an Arduino and are looking for next steps or cool projects, we can help, come share what you know. If you are currently working on a project, bring it by for inspiration and tips. We have parts, cables, and microcontroller boards for you at cost; you will need a laptop with a USB-A port or adapter. We ask $15-40 donation to cover parts and materials unless you bring your own. If you are starting out with Circuit Python, follow this link to [[Circuit Python at Noisebridge]]
We also have soldering and test equipment and can help you debug that stubborn problem :) Every 3rd Monday of the month [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137290/ Meetup: Microcontroller Monday]

3. '''Circuit Hacking Monday:''' is a free-form get-together to work on electronics projects together. Come and learn to solder, or program microcontrollers with Arduino or Circuit Python. If you are working on a project, come work with others and share what you know. We have soldering kits, tons of parts and supplies, test equipment, and knowledgeable volunteers. Every 4th Monday of the month [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137604/ Meetup: Circuit Hacking Monday]
[[File:CHM-group1000.jpg|800px|link=chm|right|]]
[[File:CHM-tablecrop800.jpg|800px|link=chm|right|A shot of a red table with the lettering "NOISBRIDGE HACKERSPACE" There are soldering irons and electronic parts visible; people's hands are shown assembling electronic kits]]

[[File:Arduinos_For_Total_Newbies_workshop.jpg|400px|link=chm|right]]

=== What? Where? ===

[[Image:CHM3.jpg|200px|Happy hardware hackers at Circuit Hacking Monday]]
[[Image:CircuitHackingMonday_EricBoyd.jpg|200px|Happy hardware hackers at Circuit Hacking Monday]]
[[Image:Noisebridge_Soldering_Workshop.jpg|200px]]

'''What''': Weekly get-together to solder cool stuff!
: You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session.
: Make a project tonight, and take it home with you!
: If you have your own project (advanced or simple),
: bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it!

'''When''': 7:00pm till whenever -- most Mondays.
: Most projects take about an hour

'''Where''': Noisebridge, 272 Capp St., San Francisco, 94114 (at 18th St., near 16th St. BART station).
:Map: [[Getting_Here]]
'''Who''': You! It is fun to make things in the friendly community of Noisebridge.
:Come join us. Everyone is welcome.

'''Cost''': Instruction is free! We ask that people pay only for the cost of the parts used -- kit prices range from FREE to $35. For more information see the list below for current kits
*'''''[https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Circuit_Hacking_Kits#Kits_That_Do_Not_Require_An_Arduino Pricelist for kits that may be available]'''''

'''Instructors:'''
: volunteers who love soldering

 
Everyone can learn about electronics and how to solder by making a simple, fun badge that has a blinky light and a flashlight -- and you can wear it home afterwards.
[[File:ICanSolderBadgeKit.jpg|250px|link=http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/products/buy.php?productId=solderbadge|center]]
[http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/products/buy.php?productId=solderbadge "I Can Solder" Badge kit]

 
Learn to solder! Friendly Circuit Hacking Monday volunteers will bring kits for you to make and take home with you. The kits are cool, practical, intriguing, hackable projects that you can bring home after you make it. Of course, you can also bring your own projects to hack.
Plenty of '''cool kits''' have historically been available but most of these are not currently in stock, including: 
*'''''[https://www.alpenglowindustries.com/store/c7/Through-Hole_Soldering_Kits.html Alpenglow Industries]''''' Cool kits from Alpenglow Industries)
*'''''[https://www.seeedstudio.com/I-Can-Solder-Badge-kit-p-4827.html I-Can-Solder Badge kit]''''' perfect starter kit from [[User:maltman23]])
*'''''[https://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/projects.php#ardutouch ArduTouch music synthesizer]''''' Make beautiful music, sound, and noise!)

*And more. 

 
=== I am a blank slate! What should I do? ===
* make one of the many easy kits that are available each week.
* make an Arduino fade an RGB LED in varying color patterns.
* make a microcontroller illuminate a 3x3 LED matrix in varying shapes.
* reverse engineer something you're curious about.
* come to Noisebridge and brainstorm! 

 
=== Learn More About Electronics and Circuits ===
 
'''''All About Circuits''''' 
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/

'''''Soldering Is Easy''''' 
http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/

'''''Soldering''''' 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering

'''''Surface Mount Soldering''''' 
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/category/2

'''''How to Solder''''' 
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-solder---through-hole-soldering

'''''Basic Electronics''''' 
http://www.instructables.com/id/Basic-Electronics/?ALLSTEPS

'''''Learn more on CHM kits on YouTube''''' 
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpVTfFassvs2b4O7saICO-AfOUVIS7730 J's Circuit Hacking Mondays Video Playlist]

'''''Electronics Tutorials''''' 
http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/

'''''Introduction to Electronics Text: This is going deep to the rabbit hole''''' 
http://www.ece.mtu.edu/faculty/ljbohman/onlinetext/elint200.pdf

'''''Electronic Applications Text: By now you are already taking the "Red Pill"''''' 
http://www.ece.mtu.edu/faculty/ljbohman/onlinetext/elapp200.pdf

 
=== Stuff needed to run Circuit Hacking Monday ===

Electronics Medium Size Box

* soldering irons
* soldering iron stands
* cellulose sponges (cut small, and made wet with tap water)
* small wire snippers
* solder: 60/40 (Sn/Pb), rosin core, 0.031" or smaller diameter
* multimeters
* wire strippers
* soldering iron tip cleaner
* needle nose pliers
* solderless breadboards
* jumper wires
* Noisebridge stickers

 
== Archival ==
If you have any kits to donate that you think would be great, please bring them by!

 
More info on many of these projects: 
http://www.CornfieldElectronics.com (click on the "maker faire" tab) 
http://www.adafruit.com 
http://www.jimmieprodgers.com 
http://www.mignonette-game.com 
http://www.evilmadscientist.com 
http://analogmachines.com/
*'''''[http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/trippyRGB_instructions.php Trippy RGB Waves]''''' (interactive blinky lights!)
*'''''[http://analogmachines.com/p/nametag/ "Hello My Name Is" badge]''''' (you may have seen me wearing mine)
*'''''[http://jimmieprodgers.com/kits/apc/ Atari Punk Console]''''' (make cool noise from an Altoids tin!)
*'''''[http://jimmieprodgers.com/kits/lolshield/ LoL Shield]''''' (Lots of LEDs! for your Arduino!) '''Arduino required'''
*'''''[https://learn.adafruit.com/tv-b-gone-kit TV-B-Gone]''''' (turn off TVs in public places!)

Anyone can learn to solder! Even if you have never made anything in your life, you can learn this very useful and enjoyable skill. It really is fun! Volunteers at Noisebridge have taught tens of thousands of people to solder all around the world, and they can teach you, too! Add yourself to the ever increasing community!

=== Topics ===
As interest warrants:
* soldering (everything from through-hole to SMD rework)
* breadboarding
* powering your circuit (bench power supplies, ATX hacking, batteries)
* making LEDs blink and fade
* programming microcontrollers
* Programming microcontrollers using Arduino or Circuit Python
* Interfacing sensors like microphones or accelerometers or ultrasonic distance sensors
* Controlling addressable LEDs ("Neopixels")
* using oscilloscopes / multimeters to debug circuits
* reverse engineering circuits
* Designing PCBs using GEDA and EagleCAD

=== Who? ===
Everyone is welcome, regardless of experience level or age. If you have never made a circuit before and have no idea where to start, bring a few dollars ($10 to $30 to cover materials costs of a Brain Machine kit or other cool kits) and build it. Everyone gets personal attention, and everyone will learn enough to complete their project. If you have experience, please come and enjoy working on your project with others -- and share what you know!

=== Why? ===
Learn and share with others of all skill levels! You can come with an idea, or a question, or a circuit you want to hack. You can research ideas on the Internet ahead of time and come put them into practice! Or, you can learn with a large selection of easy-to-make kits that are available each week.

=== What can I bring to help? ===
No need to bring anything -- just yourself and your desire to play, learn, and/or share. We have everything you need. But if you like, you can bring: 
* Your own tools (we have all you need, but you can bring your own)
* Arduino / clones
* USB cables
* breadboards
* If you bring your laptop, we can set it up to program microcontrollers
* 9V or AA or AAA or other batteries (a bulk donation would be great)
* parts for your own project(s)

Circuit Hacking Monday

2024-03-07T02:43:07Z

Zoda:

{{electronics}}

{{headerbox}}
[currently paused. chat in our discord to figure out how you can help get it back up again!]
'''Circuit Hacking Mondays is a (mostly) weekly get-together to learn electronics and learn to solder cool stuff!'''
* You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session.
* Make a project tonight, and take it home with you!
* Most projects take about an hour to make.
* If you have your own project (advanced or simple), bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it!
* '''WHEN:''' 7:00pm till whenever -- most Mondays (on some Monday holidays, volunteer instructors might announce an Early start of 3:00pm.
* '''CHANNELS:''' This is an in-person event. If you need special accommodation, or need to do remote, let us know and we will try to help.
* '''ORGANIZERS:''' [[User:lxpk|LX]], [[User:culteejen|TJ]] [[User:Jtfoote|jonathan (rrmutt)]]
{{boxend}}

[[Category:Circuit Hacking Mondays]]
[[Category:events]]

'''Organization'''
We have split CHM into three sections, each runs approximately monthly. There will always be circuit hacking on Mondays, but volunteer instructors might be specializing as below or taking the week off. Come anyway :)

1. '''Learn to Solder Monday:''' is a monthly get-together to learn to solder electronics. You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session. Come make a project tonight, and take it home with you! We have great kits suitable for beginners, as well as all the soldering irons and tools needed to build them. Experienced volunteers are on hand to show you the basics and help out. We ask a $10-20 donation to cover kit costs. We also have more advanced kits for those with more experience. If you have your own project (advanced or simple), bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it. Every second Monday [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137488/ Meetup: Learn to Solder Monday]

2. '''Microcontroller Monday:''' Learn to program microcontrollers with Arduino or Circuit Python. This is a monthly get-together to learn about microcontrollers and how to program them. You can get started with a microcontroller project in one session and take it home with you! We have Arduino and Circuit Python microcontrollers, and a big selection of sensors and peripherals like Neopixel color LEDs.
Though any programming experience will help, this is suitable for beginners. If you have used an Arduino and are looking for next steps or cool projects, we can help, come share what you know. If you are currently working on a project, bring it by for inspiration and tips. We have parts, cables, and microcontroller boards for you at cost; you will need a laptop with a USB-A port or adapter. We ask $15-40 donation to cover parts and materials unless you bring your own. If you are starting out with Circuit Python, follow this link to [[Circuit Python at Noisebridge]]
We also have soldering and test equipment and can help you debug that stubborn problem :) Every 3rd Monday of the month [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137290/ Meetup: Microcontroller Monday]

3. '''Circuit Hacking Monday:''' is a free-form get-together to work on electronics projects together. Come and learn to solder, or program microcontrollers with Arduino or Circuit Python. If you are working on a project, come work with others and share what you know. We have soldering kits, tons of parts and supplies, test equipment, and knowledgeable volunteers. Every 4th Monday of the month [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/292137604/ Meetup: Circuit Hacking Monday]
[[File:CHM-group1000.jpg|800px|link=chm|right|]]
[[File:CHM-tablecrop800.jpg|800px|link=chm|right|A shot of a red table with the lettering "NOISBRIDGE HACKERSPACE" There are soldering irons and electronic parts visible; people's hands are shown assembling electronic kits]]

[[File:Arduinos_For_Total_Newbies_workshop.jpg|400px|link=chm|right]]

=== What? Where? ===

[[Image:CHM3.jpg|200px|Happy hardware hackers at Circuit Hacking Monday]]
[[Image:CircuitHackingMonday_EricBoyd.jpg|200px|Happy hardware hackers at Circuit Hacking Monday]]
[[Image:Noisebridge_Soldering_Workshop.jpg|200px]]

'''What''': Weekly get-together to solder cool stuff!
: You can easily learn all of the skills you need in one session.
: Make a project tonight, and take it home with you!
: If you have your own project (advanced or simple),
: bring it by, and if you would like help, you can get it!

'''When''': 7:00pm till whenever -- most Mondays.
: Most projects take about an hour

'''Where''': Noisebridge, 272 Capp St., San Francisco, 94114 (at 18th St., near 16th St. BART station).
:Map: [[Getting_Here]]
'''Who''': You! It is fun to make things in the friendly community of Noisebridge.
:Come join us. Everyone is welcome.

'''Cost''': Instruction is free! We ask that people pay only for the cost of the parts used -- kit prices range from FREE to $35. For more information see the list below for current kits
*'''''[https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Circuit_Hacking_Kits#Kits_That_Do_Not_Require_An_Arduino Pricelist for kits that may be available]'''''

'''Instructors:'''
: volunteers who love soldering

 
Everyone can learn about electronics and how to solder by making a simple, fun badge that has a blinky light and a flashlight -- and you can wear it home afterwards.
[[File:ICanSolderBadgeKit.jpg|250px|link=http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/products/buy.php?productId=solderbadge|center]]
[http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/products/buy.php?productId=solderbadge "I Can Solder" Badge kit]

 
Learn to solder! Friendly Circuit Hacking Monday volunteers will bring kits for you to make and take home with you. The kits are cool, practical, intriguing, hackable projects that you can bring home after you make it. Of course, you can also bring your own projects to hack.
Plenty of '''cool kits''' have historically been available but most of these are not currently in stock, including: 
*'''''[https://www.alpenglowindustries.com/store/c7/Through-Hole_Soldering_Kits.html Alpenglow Industries]''''' Cool kits from Alpenglow Industries)
*'''''[https://www.seeedstudio.com/I-Can-Solder-Badge-kit-p-4827.html I-Can-Solder Badge kit]''''' perfect starter kit from [[User:maltman23]])
*'''''[https://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/projects.php#ardutouch ArduTouch music synthesizer]''''' Make beautiful music, sound, and noise!)

*And more. 

 
=== I am a blank slate! What should I do? ===
* make one of the many easy kits that are available each week.
* make an Arduino fade an RGB LED in varying color patterns.
* make a microcontroller illuminate a 3x3 LED matrix in varying shapes.
* reverse engineer something you're curious about.
* come to Noisebridge and brainstorm! 

 
=== Learn More About Electronics and Circuits ===
 
'''''All About Circuits''''' 
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/

'''''Soldering Is Easy''''' 
http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/

'''''Soldering''''' 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering

'''''Surface Mount Soldering''''' 
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/category/2

'''''How to Solder''''' 
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-solder---through-hole-soldering

'''''Basic Electronics''''' 
http://www.instructables.com/id/Basic-Electronics/?ALLSTEPS

'''''Learn more on CHM kits on YouTube''''' 
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpVTfFassvs2b4O7saICO-AfOUVIS7730 J's Circuit Hacking Mondays Video Playlist]

'''''Electronics Tutorials''''' 
http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/

'''''Introduction to Electronics Text: This is going deep to the rabbit hole''''' 
http://www.ece.mtu.edu/faculty/ljbohman/onlinetext/elint200.pdf

'''''Electronic Applications Text: By now you are already taking the "Red Pill"''''' 
http://www.ece.mtu.edu/faculty/ljbohman/onlinetext/elapp200.pdf

 
=== Stuff needed to run Circuit Hacking Monday ===

Electronics Medium Size Box

* soldering irons
* soldering iron stands
* cellulose sponges (cut small, and made wet with tap water)
* small wire snippers
* solder: 60/40 (Sn/Pb), rosin core, 0.031" or smaller diameter
* multimeters
* wire strippers
* soldering iron tip cleaner
* needle nose pliers
* solderless breadboards
* jumper wires
* Noisebridge stickers

 
== Archival ==
If you have any kits to donate that you think would be great, please bring them by!

 
More info on many of these projects: 
http://www.CornfieldElectronics.com (click on the "maker faire" tab) 
http://www.adafruit.com 
http://www.jimmieprodgers.com 
http://www.mignonette-game.com 
http://www.evilmadscientist.com 
http://analogmachines.com/
*'''''[http://cornfieldelectronics.com/cfe/trippyRGB_instructions.php Trippy RGB Waves]''''' (interactive blinky lights!)
*'''''[http://analogmachines.com/p/nametag/ "Hello My Name Is" badge]''''' (you may have seen me wearing mine)
*'''''[http://jimmieprodgers.com/kits/apc/ Atari Punk Console]''''' (make cool noise from an Altoids tin!)
*'''''[http://jimmieprodgers.com/kits/lolshield/ LoL Shield]''''' (Lots of LEDs! for your Arduino!) '''Arduino required'''
*'''''[https://learn.adafruit.com/tv-b-gone-kit TV-B-Gone]''''' (turn off TVs in public places!)

Anyone can learn to solder! Even if you have never made anything in your life, you can learn this very useful and enjoyable skill. It really is fun! Volunteers at Noisebridge have taught tens of thousands of people to solder all around the world, and they can teach you, too! Add yourself to the ever increasing community!

=== Topics ===
As interest warrants:
* soldering (everything from through-hole to SMD rework)
* breadboarding
* powering your circuit (bench power supplies, ATX hacking, batteries)
* making LEDs blink and fade
* programming microcontrollers
* Programming microcontrollers using Arduino or Circuit Python
* Interfacing sensors like microphones or accelerometers or ultrasonic distance sensors
* Controlling addressable LEDs ("Neopixels")
* using oscilloscopes / multimeters to debug circuits
* reverse engineering circuits
* Designing PCBs using GEDA and EagleCAD

=== Who? ===
Everyone is welcome, regardless of experience level or age. If you have never made a circuit before and have no idea where to start, bring a few dollars ($10 to $30 to cover materials costs of a Brain Machine kit or other cool kits) and build it. Everyone gets personal attention, and everyone will learn enough to complete their project. If you have experience, please come and enjoy working on your project with others -- and share what you know!

=== Why? ===
Learn and share with others of all skill levels! You can come with an idea, or a question, or a circuit you want to hack. You can research ideas on the Internet ahead of time and come put them into practice! Or, you can learn with a large selection of easy-to-make kits that are available each week.

=== What can I bring to help? ===
No need to bring anything -- just yourself and your desire to play, learn, and/or share. We have everything you need. But if you like, you can bring: 
* Your own tools (we have all you need, but you can bring your own)
* Arduino / clones
* USB cables
* breadboards
* If you bring your laptop, we can set it up to program microcontrollers
* 9V or AA or AAA or other batteries (a bulk donation would be great)
* parts for your own project(s)

Flaschen Taschen

2024-02-17T06:15:29Z

Zoda: Adding notes while fixing Flaschen Taschen from https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Flaschen_Taschen&action=submit

{{LED}}
{{blackbox}} [[File:Flaschentable.jpg|right|150px]]

You are standing at the '''Flaschen Taschen''', a glowing display wall showing animated artwork on a grid of LED lit bottles in a grid of black crates.

Its blinking lights are reflected in the gleaming adjacent [[Noise Square Table]], forming the fabled "FlaschenTable".
You see instructions on how to send graphics to the Flaschen Taschen remotely.

'''EXITS:''' [[Hackitorium]], [[Shop]]
{{cursorboxend}}

[[File:Flaschentable.jpg|right|thumb|500px|The iconic [[Noise Square Table|FlascheNoiseSquareTable]] super-duo]]
[[File:Noisebridge_Logo_FlaschenTaschen.jpg|500px]]

===What's the project?===
[[Image:Award Winning FlaschenTaschen.jpg|right|500px|thumb|The Makerfaire Editor's Choice Award-winning Flaschen Taschen]]

The Award Winning Flaschen Taschen is a 10’ by 9’ (3m x 2.75m) video display made out of clear glass bottles, milk crates, RGB LED strings (with a total of 1575 LEDs), and a controller board. Each bottle is capped with a single addressable RGB LED. The bottoms of the bottles act as lenses for the emitted light. The project has a German name as homage to c-base’s [http://matelight.rocks/ Mate-Light] project. After seeing Mate-Light at Chaos Communication Congress, we were inspired to build a similar project at Noisebridge to present at the 2016 Maker Faire.

Another inspirational build is the [http://www.zuloark.com/muro-de-botellas/ Muro de botellas] project.

Our goal was to have it completed for [http://makerfaire.com/bay-area/ Maker Faire 2016] to be shown as part of our booth and we were two weeks ahead of schedule. After the MakerFaire, the display will be permanently installed within Noisebridge and possibly made available for events.

Our code and hardware that drives up to 16 LED strips from a Raspberry Pi is on [https://github.com/hzeller/flaschen-taschen Flaschen-Taschen github]. We only need 9 strips in this project, one for each crate column. The update rate of the full FlaschenTaschen display is up to 160fps!

[[File:ft-pi-breakout.jpg|200px|The breakout board, driving up to 16 SPI LED strips.]]

Here is the first view of the completed project

[[File:FlaschenTaschen-2016-05-06.jpg|500px|thumb|Showing the Plasma written By [[User:Carl|Carl]] - Find the code for this demo here https://github.com/cgorringe/ft-demos]]

[[File:ft-back-of-the-crates.jpg|500px|Back of the crates|right|thumb|Backstage view of the crates that power it.]]

=== Network protocol and Utilities to send content ===

The network protocol is quite simple: essentially send a PPM picture (P6) in a UDP packet to ft.noise:1337.

For instance, try the following all in the comfort of you shell (in bash, to be precise, that conveniently provides the /dev/udp pseudo-path):

bash$ jpegtopnm myimage.jpg | stdbuf -o64k pnmscale -xysize 45 35 > /dev/udp/ft.noise/1337

Flaschen Taschen accepts a footer that defines an offset in x,y space as well as a layer z index. To write images which cover the default demo visualization, you can send a higher -index by appending this footer after your sends. We still need to make sure to send everything in one packet, so on the shell this is a bit awkward as we first have to store the full content temporarily in a file. For instance, to position the image at (x=0 y=0, z=5):

bash$ ( jpegtopnm myimage.jpg | pnmscale -xysize 45 35; echo "0 0 5" ) > /tmp/tmp-out ; cat /tmp/tmp-out > /dev/udp/ft.noise/1337

There are [https://github.com/hzeller/flaschen-taschen/tree/master/client#flaschen-taschen-clients utilities in the repository] to send and scroll arbitrary images (including animated gifs), videos or text, so the above, sending an image to layer 5, would be as simple as:

bash:flaschen-taschen/client$ ./send-image -l5 myimage.jpg

There is a C++ and Python client library that you can use right away to send images to Flaschen Taschen including a couple of examples.
It is simple to write your own client in any language that supports networking (See [https://github.com/hzeller/flaschen-taschen/blob/master/doc/protocols.md#protocols protocols section] in documentation). There is also a Node.js module flaschenode in the npm registry (https://www.npmjs.com/package/flaschenode). Or you can clone it from github or help hack on it if somehow you have node working but don't like npm (https://github.com/mpmckenna8/flashenode).

'''See all the details here:''' https://github.com/hzeller/flaschen-taschen

===FlaschenToy===

One of the examples in the [https://github.com/hzeller/flaschen-taschen Flaschen Taschen github] is FlaschenToy.

This is a Flask app that sends the contents of a WebGL canvas to the Flaschen Taschen. The web page takes [http://nehe.gamedev.net/article/glsl_an_introduction/25007/ GLSL] code from a text area input, and displays it on the Flaschen Taschen using the the [https://www.shadertoy.com/howto ShaderToy] conventions.

It is currently hosted on [https://noisebridge.noise noisebridge] you can try it at: http://noisebridge.noise/FlaschenToy

I've not added it to the to the startup scripts, so if that site is dead you can restart on by running ''sudo run.sh'' in ~/github/flaschen-taschen/examples-api-use/flask (you'll need to be logged in as noisebridge and have the admin password)

Try pasting some of the shaders from the ShaderToy page: https://www.shadertoy.com/browse into the text area

Most examples will just work. E.g. this meta ball example:
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/Mss3WN

The code is currently in my fork of the project (will get merged into main page in the future):
https://github.com/griffin2000/flaschen-taschen

=== List of Devices at Noisebridge running the Flaschen Taschen Protocol ===

* [[ft.noise | FlaschenTaschen]] - Host: [[network#LAN - 10.20.0.0/22 | ft.noise]]
* [[ftkleine.noise | Kleine FlaschenTaschen]] - Host: [[network#LAN - 10.20.0.0/22 | ftkleine.noise]]
* Library bookshelves - Host: [[network#LAN - 10.20.0.0/22| bookcase.noise]]
* [[Noise_Square_Table|Noise Square table]] - Host: [[network#LAN - 10.20.0.0/22 | square.noise]]

===Current Mechanical Design Documentation===

This .PDF file is the current drawing set. Please take a look.

https://noisebridge.net/images/8/8c/2016_0518_FlaschenTaschen_Sheet1-0_AsBuilt_Noisebridge.pdf

[[File:2016 0518 FlaschenTaschen Sheet1-0 AsBuilt Noisebridge.jpg|1024px]]

===Rough Take-down Procedure===

Flaschen Taschen takedown and setup notes: (does not include electronics)
2016-06-13 draft by [[user:jarrod|Jarrod]]

! Take pictures of how things are setup for reference!

! Take care to collect all the parts as you disassemble, there are many parts and some are small, but important!

*1_Remove all power cables from rear. Make note of how they are run to the power supplies

*2_Disconnect all data connections, remember there are typically two per crate. Take a photo of how they are routed to the breakout board on the raspberry pi.
NOTE: The crates have an orientation. Remember this. Take a photo

*3_Remove the 2” green tie down strap. This is tricky there are two metal latches in line with the handles that need to be pulled in tandem to release the ratchet. While pulling on the latches it may be necessary to add tension to the tie down to get it to release, since we do not tighten it very much during install.

*4_The wooden vertical supports are connected to four of the top crates by a wood screw
Remove these screws. The supports are kind of floppy and are really only meant to be supportive in a direction parallel to the face of the display
During setup any forward or backward lean of the display can be adjusted slightly by screwing these supports back on to the top crates at a distance that pushes them forward or pulls them backward

*5_Once the cables and supports are disconnected the RELEASABLE cable ties can be removed from the crates. Please do not cut the ties, as you will need them to set the display back up

*6_Stack the crates in stacks of 4. This is a good height to move with a hand truck. Make sure that the power jacks and date cables are not hanging over the edges of each crate before another crate is placed on top of it, so as to not damage the wires and connectors.

NOTE: The bottom row of crates do not have bottles with LEDs, so as to provide a space for the hardware and lift the display of the floor for improved visibility.

NOTE: The two end crates have 2x4 supports in them. The others have plywood. The assembly is not symmetrical, but each crate has at least one support. Together they are almost exactly as long as the base. These also get zip tied together, but they are harder to tie.

*7_Stack up the base crates. These are also good for holding all the hardware, zip ties, bolts (in a bag), and cables for transport.

*8_Remove the vertical supports from the base by unscrewing them. (iirc: this is done with a 7/16” wrench/socket.) Have someone hold the vertical supports while unscrewing. Keep all parts and set aside. NOTE how those washers are used. It is important that bolts not be able to rip through the wood.

*9_Flip the base over. There are three bolts in the center that hold it together. Remove these.

Congratulations, You have now turned the Flaschen Taschen into parts for shipping.

The setup procedure is essentially the reverse of this. Just remember:

*A_Bring tools. Wrenches for the bolts, a screwdriver for the tops of the vertical supports, and a ladder.

*B_The crates have an orientation. At the forward edge (display side) of each crate there is Velcro. The hook side should be on the top and the loop side should be on the bottom. This is typical for all crates except the base which only have the hook side Velcro on the top.

*C_Do not tighten the tie down very much. Its purpose is merely to squeeze the crates together so they can’t move individually. The zip ties do most of the work

*D_Try to align the forward faces of the crates as best as possible, but realize that it will never come out perfect. If a column is going out of vertical the crates above can be installed a little fore or aft of the face of the display to make up for it.

*E_People have already sent images of genitalia to be displayed on the screen, so get over it.

=== hacking ===

the blinky RGB LED's are driven by a [[WS2801]] chip, that uses a clock (green) and data (white) line, that are operated similarly to APA102's, but are not identical in practice.

custom code's by teh'x taht served as table ornamite for Mitch's interview of C.M. past 10th anniversary at NB.

µPython running on a ESP8266 driving random overflow noise on a milk crate of 5x5 RGB's.

<pre>
# 2 CM w/<3

import time
from machine import Pin
from apa102 import APA102

clock = Pin(14, Pin.OUT) # set GPIO14 to output to drive the clock
data = Pin(13, Pin.OUT) # set GPIO13 to output to drive the data

apa = APA102(clock, data, 25)

def randomByte():
return int.from_bytes(uos.urandom(1), 'little')

def randomPixel():
return [randomByte(), randomByte(), randomByte(), 31]

def loop():
while True:
for j in range(25):
apa[j] = randomPixel()
apa.write()
time.sleep_ms(round(randomByte()/10))

loop()
</pre>

== Web interface ==

If you are at Noisebridge at 272 Capp and on our wireless, you can go to http://led-square:4444/ and use the code examples at https://github.com/noisebridge/ft-web to mess with the LED display(s)! Thanks to dana for getting this running again!

== Flaschen Taschen on a Raspberry Pi ==
Build and run FT on a Pi.

=== Preparing SD Card ===
Use Raspberry Pi imager to install OS and create a username of noisebridge to log into the Pi.

=== Building FT ===

<pre>
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install g++ make
sudo apt-get install libgraphicsmagick++-dev
sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev libavformat-dev libswscale-dev libavutil-dev

mdir GitHub
mkdir noisebridge
cd noisebridge

git clone https://github.com/noisebridge/flaschen-taschen.git
cd flaschen-taschen/server
make
mkdir -p ~/bin
cp ft-server ~/bin/
</pre>

<pre>
cd ~/GitHub
mkdir cgorringe
cd cgorringe
git clone https://github.com/cgorringe/ft-demos.git
cd ft-demos
git submodule update --init --recursive
make
cp black ~/bin
cp blur ~/bin
cp fractal ~/bin
cp hack ~/bin
cp kbd2midi ~/bin
cp life ~/bin
cp lines ~/bin
cp matrix ~/bin
cp maze ~/bin
cp midi ~/bin
cp nb-logo ~/bin
cp plasma ~/bin
cp quilt ~/bin
cp random-dots ~/bin
cp sierpinski ~/bin
cp sierpinski_rain.py ~/bin
cp simple-animation ~/bin
cp simple-example ~/bin
cp words ~/bin
cd ft/client
make send-text send-image
cp send-text ~/bin/
cp send-image ~/bin/
</pre>

There are problems with the build for send-video as it is using API which has since been deprecated and removed from the library. The code will need to be revised.

=== Configuring FT ====

<pre>
sudo vim /etc/systemd/system/ft-server.service
sudo systemctl daemon-reload sudo systemctl enable ft-server.service
sudo systemctl start ft-server.service
ps aux | grep ft-server | grep -v grep
</pre>

/etc/systemd/system/ft-server.service:

<pre>
[Unit]
Description=Flaschen Taschen Server
After=network.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/home/noisebridge/bin/ft-server -D 160x96 --layer-timeout 15
WorkingDirectory=/home/noisebridge/ft
Restart=always
User=noisebridge

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
</pre>

Start:
sudo systemctl start ft-server.service

Status:
sudo systemctl status ft-server.service

View logs:
journalctl -u ft-server.service

=== Create Backup Image ===

diskutil list

dd if=/dev/rdiskX of=/path/to/backup.img bs=1m`

Run '''backup.sh''' to create a backup image.

About

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{{about}}

{{headerbox}}[[File:Noisebridge-pixels.gif|500px]][[File:NBLogoAni.gif|right|350px]]
'''Noisebridge''' is a creative technology community for excellent, do-ocratic, consensus-based collaboration.

'''[[Excellence]]:''' Be excellent to each other is the guiding principle of Noisebridge. Wikipedia uses a somewhat similar rule, which they call "the fundamental rule of all social spaces. Every other policy for getting along is a special case of it." Unlike Wikipedia, Noisebridge takes a positive approach, and avoids the practice of officially enumerating the myriad potential special cases; "be excellent" is enough.

'''[[Do-ocracy]]:''' Doing excellent stuff at Noisebridge does not require permission or an official consensus decision. If you're uncertain about the excellence of something you want to do, you should ask someone else what they think.

'''[[Consensus]]:''' We make official Noisebridge decisions by consensus, which means the willing consent of all of our members. Decisions are typically made at our weekly meetings or via our online management venues, and items proposed for consensus are announced at least a week in advance to give everyone time to hear about them. Conceivably, members could block by proxy if they are unable to attend or if they wish to block anonymously.
{{boxend}}

= The Prologue =

Are you new to Noisebridge? Have you been coming here for years?

Either way, you should really read up on what we're all about. Lots of this stuff is the basis for what we do.

* [[Noisebridge Vision]] - What's it all about?
* [[Testimonials]] - In your own words, what is Noisebridge?
* [[Oral histories]] about Noisebridge

'''Noisebridge''' is a physical space open and welcoming to all, providing infrastructure and collaboration opportunities for anyone interested in programming, hardware, crafts, science, robotics, art, and technology. We teach, we learn, we share. With no leaders, we have one rule: "Be excellent to each other". 

Read on for answers to some frequently asked questions, or navigate to find out more about us.

[[File:Excellence.png|250px|link=Excellence]] [[File:Do-ocracy Poster - DO IT - 2018-08-11 revision (small).png|250px|link=Do-ocracy]] [[File:Consensus.png|250px|link=Consensus]] [[File:NoisebridgeMeetingPoster.fw.png|250px|link=Meetings]]

'''Governance and Goals:''' [[Vision]], [[Do-ocracy]], [[Consensus_Process]], [[Meetings]], [[Community_Standards]], [[Board_and_Officers]]

'''Nuts and Bolts:''' [[Hours]], [[Visitor_advice]], [[Getting_In]], [[Getting_Here]], [[Resources]]

'''Conflict and Concerns:''' [[Safety]], [[Conflict_Resolution]], [[Mediation]]

'''Our Name:''' A [[wikipedia:Antenna_analyzer|"noise bridge"]] is a piece of electronic test equipment that injects noise into a system to see how it responds, so you can fix or improve it. Such a device is often used in RF electronics.

'''What can I do here?''' Meet techie, arty, and crafty folks, take a class, teach a class, use the power tools and electronic labs, build something out of stuff on the hack shelves, use our library, surf the web, and so on.

'''Getting Here:''' Noisebridge is close to the 16th & Mission BART station, and the 14 Mission, 33 Stanyan, and 49 Van Ness-Mission Muni buses. The 22 Fillmore and 12 Folsom Muni buses are within a couple blocks.

'''Do I need to be a Member?''' You don't need to be a Member to participate in Noisebridge in any way. All are welcome!
Noisebridge is also a great place to hang out and work on projects. However, if you spend a lot of time at Noisebridge and you're not donating, you'll be expected to contribute in some other material way to the space and the culture surrounding it. There are two "more officially involved" ways of participating at Noisebridge: Philanthropy and (capital-M) Membership. Philanthropy is a role for people who wish to contribute financially to Noisebridge, who care about maintaining the space, and would like to have 24 hour access. (Capital-M) Membership is much like Philanthropy, but also involves things such as having a role in the official governance process at Noisebridge.

'''How do I become a Philanthropist or Member?''' Come around Noisebridge, get to know people, become trusted by the community and the existing Membership. Read the wiki pages on [[Philanthropist]] and [[Membership]].

'''[[Meetings]]''' are usually every Tuesday at 8pm at the 2169 Mission space and streaming via [[Jitsi]]. Meetings are mostly for organizational purposes.

Any time is a good time to '''introduce yourself'''. Come on up and have a refreshment, tell others about your interests, or ask people what projects they are working on.

'''Where can I find out more?''' The wiki is at [https://www.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net]. The “Noisebridge-discuss” email list (and other lists) at https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo.

'''Events, workshops, classes!''' Every week there are lots of activities at Noisebridge, planned and otherwise. Check the wiki for upcoming events, workshops, and classes. And feel free to add your own!

Noisebridge is a fairly '''open and permissive space''', and the equipment (unless otherwise marked, or on a member shelf) is open for public use. Safety first! Feel free to come to Noisebridge to work and play on your project, or help others with theirs.

Noisebridge has '''lots of space''' available as a community resource for individuals and organizations to use -- please use it!

'''Can I leave my stuff here?''' Noisebridge is open to the public, so use your judgment when leaving valuables here. Noisebridge is not responsible for lost or stolen items. Avoid leaving your bicycle here overnight. The daily storage shelves provide a space to leave your things for the day. The lost and found box is located on top of the shelves. Members can leave items on their labeled member shelf for an extended period. Please label any projects left here with your name, email, and the date. Putting your project into a box labeled with your name is best. 

{{ManualPage}}
[[category:Noisebridge]]

About

2024-02-14T04:05:41Z

Zoda: Be excellent, as a principle, not just be excellent to people but also space and tools.

{{about}}

{{headerbox}}[[File:Noisebridge-pixels.gif|500px]][[File:NBLogoAni.gif|right|350px]]
'''Noisebridge''' is a creative technology community for excellent, do-ocratic, consensus-based collaboration.

'''[[Excellence]]:''' The guiding principle is to Be Excellent. Be excellent to each other, the space, and all the tools in in the space. This is the guiding principle of Noisebridge. Noisebridge takes a positive approach and avoids the practice of officially enumerating the myriad potential special cases; "be excellent" is enough. Take responsibility for the spaces you occupy and Be Excellent.

'''[[Do-ocracy]]:''' Doing excellent stuff at Noisebridge does not require permission or an official consensus decision. If you're uncertain about the excellence of something you want to do, you should ask the people around you what they think and use your best judgement.

'''[[Consensus]]:''' We make official Noisebridge decisions by consensus, which means the willing consent of all of our members. Decisions are typically made at our weekly meetings or via our online management venues, and items proposed for consensus are announced at least a week in advance to give everyone time to hear about them. Conceivably, members could block by proxy if they are unable to attend or if they wish to block anonymously.
{{boxend}}

= The Prologue =

Are you new to Noisebridge? Have you been coming here for years?

Either way, you should really read up on what we're all about. Lots of this stuff is the basis for what we do.

* [[Noisebridge Vision]] - What's it all about?
* [[Testimonials]] - In your own words, what is Noisebridge?
* [[Oral histories]] about Noisebridge

'''Noisebridge''' is a physical space open and welcoming to all, providing infrastructure and collaboration opportunities for anyone interested in programming, hardware, crafts, science, robotics, art, and technology. We teach, we learn, we share. With no leaders, we have one rule: "Be excellent to each other". 

Read on for answers to some frequently asked questions, or navigate to find out more about us.

[[File:Excellence.png|250px|link=Excellence]] [[File:Do-ocracy Poster - DO IT - 2018-08-11 revision (small).png|250px|link=Do-ocracy]] [[File:Consensus.png|250px|link=Consensus]] [[File:NoisebridgeMeetingPoster.fw.png|250px|link=Meetings]]

'''Governance and Goals:''' [[Vision]], [[Do-ocracy]], [[Consensus_Process]], [[Meetings]], [[Community_Standards]], [[Board_and_Officers]]

'''Nuts and Bolts:''' [[Hours]], [[Visitor_advice]], [[Getting_In]], [[Getting_Here]], [[Resources]]

'''Conflict and Concerns:''' [[Safety]], [[Conflict_Resolution]], [[Mediation]]

'''Our Name:''' A [[wikipedia:Antenna_analyzer|"noise bridge"]] is a piece of electronic test equipment that injects noise into a system to see how it responds, so you can fix or improve it. Such a device is often used in RF electronics.

'''What can I do here?''' Meet techie, arty, and crafty folks, take a class, teach a class, use the power tools and electronic labs, build something out of stuff on the hack shelves, use our library, surf the web, and so on.

'''Getting Here:''' Noisebridge is close to the 16th & Mission BART station, and the 14 Mission, 33 Stanyan, and 49 Van Ness-Mission Muni buses. The 22 Fillmore and 12 Folsom Muni buses are within a couple blocks.

'''Do I need to be a Member?''' You don't need to be a Member to participate in Noisebridge in any way. All are welcome!

Noisebridge is also a great place to hang out and work on projects. However, if you spend a lot of time at Noisebridge and you're not donating, you'll be expected to contribute in some other material way to the space and the culture surrounding it. There are two "more officially involved" ways of participating at Noisebridge: Philanthropy and (capital-M) Membership. Philanthropy is a role for people who wish to contribute financially to Noisebridge, who care about maintaining the space, and would like to have 24 hour access. (Capital-M) Membership is much like Philanthropy, but also involves things such as having a role in the official governance process at Noisebridge.

'''How do I become a Philanthropist or Member?''' Come around Noisebridge, get to know people, become trusted by the community and the existing Membership. Read the wiki pages on [[Philanthropist]] and [[Membership]].

'''[[Meetings]]''' are usually every Tuesday at 8pm at the 2169 Mission space and streaming via [[Jitsi]]. Meetings are mostly for organizational purposes.

Any time is a good time to '''introduce yourself'''. Come on up and have a refreshment, tell others about your interests, or ask people what projects they are working on.

'''Where can I find out more?''' The wiki is at [https://www.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net]. The “Noisebridge-discuss” email list (and other lists) at https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo.

'''Events, workshops, classes!''' Every week there are lots of activities at Noisebridge, planned and otherwise. Check the wiki for upcoming events, workshops, and classes. And feel free to add your own!

Noisebridge is a fairly '''open and permissive space''', and the equipment (unless otherwise marked, or on a member shelf) is open for public use. Safety first! Feel free to come to Noisebridge to work and play on your project, or help others with theirs.

Noisebridge has '''lots of space''' available as a community resource for individuals and organizations to use -- please use it!

'''Can I leave my stuff here?''' Noisebridge is open to the public, so use your judgment when leaving valuables here. Noisebridge is not responsible for lost or stolen items. Avoid leaving your bicycle here overnight. The daily storage shelves provide a space to leave your things for the day. The lost and found box is located on top of the shelves. Members can leave items on their labeled member shelf for an extended period. Please label any projects left here with your name, email, and the date. Putting your project into a box labeled with your name is best. 

{{ManualPage}}
[[category:Noisebridge]]