Noisebridge - User contributions [en]

Moving/2009 Pledges

2009-08-06T17:48:07Z

Squiral:

This page records pledges from people to Noisebridge for the occasion of moving to a bigger space in 2009. When adding your pledge, please note if your company makes matching donations to 501c3 (or if you think they might do so). The Noisebridge Secretary will be more than happy to help with any paperwork for matching donations. This page starts with pledges from the 14 July 2009 meeting - if you see your name or amount is incorrect, change it. Please add more pledges!

Total so far is:

* '''$14,206.40''' without doubling
* '''$16,856.40''' with doubling

{| border="1"
! Name
! Ammount
! Matching
! Received
! Comment
|-
| Andy
| $100
| double
|
|
|-
| Ben
| $1000
| double
|
|
|-
| Jake
| $500
|
|
|
|-
| Jim
| $100
|
|
|
|-
| Bill
| $500
|
|
|
|-
| Billy
| $50
|
| yes
|
|-
| Vlad
| $100
|
|
|
|-
| David Stafford
| $1000
|
| yes
|
|-
| Crutcher
| $500
| double
|
|
|-
| Steve
| $150
| double
|
|
|-
| David Stainton
| $1000
|
|
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|-
| Rachel
| $500
|
| yes
|
|-
| Mikolaj
| $500
| double
|
|
|-
| Lamont
| $100
|
|
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|-
| Christie
| $500
| double
|
|
|-
| Jeffrey
| $250
|
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|-
| Joachim
| $100
|
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|-
| Aestetix
| $500
|
|
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|-
| Miah
| $500
| See comment
|
| See: http://www.salesforcefoundation.org/equity
|-
| Leif
| $250
|
|
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|-
| Micah
| $100
|
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|-
| Anonymous
| $500
|
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| Shannon
| $500
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|-
| John
| $100
|
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|-
| JSharp
| $500
|
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|-
| Bill Pollock
| $500
|
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|-
| Rubin
| $0.40
|
|
| (BART card)
|-
| David Molnar
| $300
|
| yes
|
|-
| Martyn
| $500
|
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|-
| Al B
| $500
|
| yes
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|-
| Jonathan F
| $250
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| Meryl P
| $50
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| Praveen
| $1000
|
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| Nick DePetrillo
| $100
|
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| (will give to Jake in vegas)
|-
| dpc
| $256
| no
| paypal-ed
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|-
| Eric
| $250
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| Jonathan Moore
| $500
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| Skory
| $100
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|-
|}

User:Squiral

2009-07-29T22:27:41Z

Squiral: New page.

[[Image:Wjm-small.jpg|right|96px]]

== Contact ==

wjm@llard.net

File:Wjm-small.jpg

2009-07-29T22:24:11Z

Squiral:

Potential Locations

2009-07-23T23:13:11Z

Squiral: /* Completed Viewings */

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{|
| style="padding: 0.4em 0.2em 0 0;" valign="top" | '''Important note:''' In September of 2008 the [[83C_Wiese|83C Wiese]] location was chosen for Noisebridge. Due to recent growth (and our lease running up in a few weeks), we're now in search of larger spaces to support the membership.
|}</div>

This page collects trip reports to view possible Noisebridge spaces.

[[Image:Andytriumph.jpg|thumb|right|180px|A Noisebridge member gets a better view of a potential space.]]

* [[SettingUpViewings]]: Pointers on how to set up your own space viewing, with frequently asked landlord questions.
* [[QuestionsForTheSpace]]: This is a list of questions we may want to ask about any space we want to inhabit.
* [[InsuranceQuestions]]
* [[ThingsToMakeTheSpaceUsable]]
* [[ThingsWeWant]]
* [[ThingsWeHaveToGiveAway]]

Places to look include craigslist and Bill pointed out starboardnet.com hcmcommercial.com, loopnet.com, and sfarmls.com. Also look in windows of buildings as you pass by and take down "for rent" numbers. When you see a place that looks interesting, add it to the list of "places to set up viewings" below. If you have a minute and can schedule some time out of your day, pick up a place from the list and call the landlord to set up a viewing.

Please take pictures of important assets such as: floor to ceiling distance, power circuit panel, MPOE or where phone/cable service enters, view from roof (from all possible angles), etc.

------

== Space Specs ==

Here's a list in no particular order of the things we are looking for from a space. This describes an ideal space, not every space will be like this.

* $2000-$5000/month
* 3000+ square feet
* 24-hour access (ideally our own secured entrance)
* No neighbor complaints for access, music work, or other noise
* Safe neighborhood (see murder map, for example)
* Shower/bathroom
* San Francisco
* Near public transportation
* reasonable power and ventilation

== Rating Spaces ==

When writing up a report of a space you've viewed, please include a section with a quantification of the above desirable features, either as a "yes or no" or on a scale of 1 to 10, like so:

* Size: 8 (2000 square feet)
* Private Entance: No
* 24/7 Access: Yes
* Privacy / Sound Isolation: 6 (single neighboring space, used days, shares *thin* interior walls)
* Safety of Neighborhood: 8
* Shower: No
* Bathroom: Yes
* Kitchen: No
* In San Francisco: Yes
* Transit Availability: 6 (short bus ride from BART)
* Power: 10 (in a PG&E Substation!)
* Connectivity: 8
* Roof rights/line of sight to tall buildings: 7

== Completed Viewings ==

December 2007:

* [[40 Ringold]]

17 January 2008:

We (Jake Appelbaum, Andy Isaacson, and David Molnar) went out to go look at
an office space advertised on craigslist on Thursday that might be available
for a permanent move-in soon. We actually ended up seeing two places. Here
are some notes on the places plus pictures. These give some idea of what
possible options are in addition to 40 Ringold. (Thanks again to Bill for
letting us use [[40 Ringold]] for meetings, etc. during this time!)

*[[215 Dore Lane]]
*[[1351 Harrison]]

23 July 2008:

* Dimension 7 - [[150 Folsom]]

29 July 2008:

* [[880 Harrison]] @ 5th - 1803 sq. ft for ~$2500, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/773536200.html (http://www.project880.com/suite_301.html); Contact: Craig Lipton 415-923-0916
* [[880 Harrison|185 Clara]] @ 5th - 1732 sq. ft for $2250, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/773505313.html (http://www.project880.com/185clara.html)

25 September 2008:
* [[83C Wiese]] @ 16th/Mission - 1000 sq. ft for ~$2000, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/853914124.html

05.02.09
* [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2009-May/004518.html 2101 Mission] -- 5200 sq feet, $3500/mo. "low" ceilings (8 feet)

06.05.09
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1867+mission,sf 1867 Mission], Friday 2009-06-05 13:00 -- [[User:adi|adi]] spoke to Gary Barboro regarding the building. 3 floors, 11ksf / floor, owners "would like to develop housing" but it sounds like they're flexible. "Owners were thinking $2/sf including build-out, don't know if they would be willing to go down to $1" but he didn't hang up on me. They'd like to rent whole floors but probably can subdivide.

06.10.09
* [[475 Valencia]] (at 16th). [http://www.salon.com/ent/log/1999/07/01/epicenter/ Has lots of history]. A listing [http://www.homes.com/listing/86230092/475_Valencia_SAN_FRANCISCO_CA_94103 here] says 5000 sq. feet and $6250.00 for the top (third) floor, $6750.00 for the second. That was in April, and they're both still empty, so that asking price may be way high.
**We will be viewing this space on Wednesday June 10 at 11am. Please meet at Noisebridge at 10:50am if you want to come with!

06.10.09
* [[2017 Mission]] This place is awesome, take a look at it http://www.flickr.com/photos/milohholim/sets/72157619567460316/

06.17.09
* [[275 8th St.]]
Photos at http://web.hexapodia.org/~adi/pix/20090618-275-8th-st/

06.17.09
* [[Oddfellows building, 7th and Market St.]]
Photos at http://web.hexapodia.org/~adi/pix/20090619-oddfellows/

06.23.09
* [[2394 Folsom Street]]
* [[301 8th Street]] Suite 333

07.21.09
* [[Moving/410_Clementina | 410 Clementina]]

== Places to Set Up Viewings ==

This is a list of places where we may want to set up a viewing. Please add and update status as needed.
* Sutter St at near Union Sq.
Up to 10,000 RSF at extremely low price!
Asking $1.00 per foot per month
Two separate Full Floor suites of 5,000 RSF each
Sublease up to February 2015 (shorter term considered)
Stable Sublandlord
Mixture of private offices and open space
HVAC
[[USER:Eri]] sent an email to arrange a viewing time for next week. Will post viewing time for anyone to come along.

* 942 Mission - approx 40,000 sqft. Four levels, industrial elevator + standard elevator. Basement was a shop & well ventilated (or could be again if the air filters were removed), first floor dungeon/bar/party/etc area, second floor offices/desks/etc, roof access with hot tub & bar. Has cat6 prewired; fiber termination point from IPNetworks. Some gated parking spaces. A block from Powell Street BART. Former Kink.com HQ's known as the Porn Palace; where the first Arse Electronika was hosted. Has multiple bathrooms, shower, laundry hookups, kitchen, etc. etc. etc.; two private entries hooked into prox card system (security system still in place); plus gates & drop door fences if needed. Neighbourhood sketch, but being gentrified slowly it seems - blue bottle coffee moved in next store bringing quality caffeine supply and the yuppies who buy it. Across the street from the Mezzaine. Many parties events held here for years without noise complaints. Power was sufficient for hundreds of computers, film lighting rigs, professional audio, shop equipment, welders, etc. etc. etc. Amazing space - was sold to property company over a year and a half ago, no one is renting it even now - should find out property management company and inquire about rental prices. They're losing money on their investment as it stands.

* 1385 Mission 3,350 sqft of clean, very bright space on the corner of Mission and 10^th – one and a half blocks from BART. We are asking $12/sqft/year - $3,350/month Details:
[[Image:1385MissionFlyer.jpg|400px|center]]

* 10th and Harrison - http://www.foundersrealty.com/cgi-local/viewer.cgi?action=display_rentals_detail&id=565

* [http://www.hcmcommercial.com/property_details.php?property_id=260 174 Shotwell (at 16th)]. Asking $6500/mo for 4800sf, so a bit out of our price-range, but I suspect that's a starting point for negotiation.

* [http://activspace.com/mission-2.html 3150 18th Street at Treat (Activspace)] They seem to focus on smaller spaces, but will apparently knock down walls to make a larger space.

* Erie off of Mission: Light Industrial shop for lease, 831-1600

[[Category:Potential Locations]]

Potential Locations

2009-07-23T23:11:46Z

Squiral: /* Completed Viewings */

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{|
| style="padding: 0.4em 0.2em 0 0;" valign="top" | '''Important note:''' In September of 2008 the [[83C_Wiese|83C Wiese]] location was chosen for Noisebridge. Due to recent growth (and our lease running up in a few weeks), we're now in search of larger spaces to support the membership.
|}</div>

This page collects trip reports to view possible Noisebridge spaces.

[[Image:Andytriumph.jpg|thumb|right|180px|A Noisebridge member gets a better view of a potential space.]]

* [[SettingUpViewings]]: Pointers on how to set up your own space viewing, with frequently asked landlord questions.
* [[QuestionsForTheSpace]]: This is a list of questions we may want to ask about any space we want to inhabit.
* [[InsuranceQuestions]]
* [[ThingsToMakeTheSpaceUsable]]
* [[ThingsWeWant]]
* [[ThingsWeHaveToGiveAway]]

Places to look include craigslist and Bill pointed out starboardnet.com hcmcommercial.com, loopnet.com, and sfarmls.com. Also look in windows of buildings as you pass by and take down "for rent" numbers. When you see a place that looks interesting, add it to the list of "places to set up viewings" below. If you have a minute and can schedule some time out of your day, pick up a place from the list and call the landlord to set up a viewing.

Please take pictures of important assets such as: floor to ceiling distance, power circuit panel, MPOE or where phone/cable service enters, view from roof (from all possible angles), etc.

------

== Space Specs ==

Here's a list in no particular order of the things we are looking for from a space. This describes an ideal space, not every space will be like this.

* $2000-$5000/month
* 3000+ square feet
* 24-hour access (ideally our own secured entrance)
* No neighbor complaints for access, music work, or other noise
* Safe neighborhood (see murder map, for example)
* Shower/bathroom
* San Francisco
* Near public transportation
* reasonable power and ventilation

== Rating Spaces ==

When writing up a report of a space you've viewed, please include a section with a quantification of the above desirable features, either as a "yes or no" or on a scale of 1 to 10, like so:

* Size: 8 (2000 square feet)
* Private Entance: No
* 24/7 Access: Yes
* Privacy / Sound Isolation: 6 (single neighboring space, used days, shares *thin* interior walls)
* Safety of Neighborhood: 8
* Shower: No
* Bathroom: Yes
* Kitchen: No
* In San Francisco: Yes
* Transit Availability: 6 (short bus ride from BART)
* Power: 10 (in a PG&E Substation!)
* Connectivity: 8
* Roof rights/line of sight to tall buildings: 7

== Completed Viewings ==

December 2007:

* [[40 Ringold]]

17 January 2008:

We (Jake Appelbaum, Andy Isaacson, and David Molnar) went out to go look at
an office space advertised on craigslist on Thursday that might be available
for a permanent move-in soon. We actually ended up seeing two places. Here
are some notes on the places plus pictures. These give some idea of what
possible options are in addition to 40 Ringold. (Thanks again to Bill for
letting us use [[40 Ringold]] for meetings, etc. during this time!)

*[[215 Dore Lane]]
*[[1351 Harrison]]

23 July 2008:

* Dimension 7 - [[150 Folsom]]

29 July 2008:

* [[880 Harrison]] @ 5th - 1803 sq. ft for ~$2500, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/773536200.html (http://www.project880.com/suite_301.html); Contact: Craig Lipton 415-923-0916
* [[880 Harrison|185 Clara]] @ 5th - 1732 sq. ft for $2250, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/773505313.html (http://www.project880.com/185clara.html)

25 September 2008:
* [[83C Wiese]] @ 16th/Mission - 1000 sq. ft for ~$2000, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/853914124.html

05.02.09
* [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2009-May/004518.html 2101 Mission] -- 5200 sq feet, $3500/mo. "low" ceilings (8 feet)

06.05.09
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1867+mission,sf 1867 Mission], Friday 2009-06-05 13:00 -- [[User:adi|adi]] spoke to Gary Barboro regarding the building. 3 floors, 11ksf / floor, owners "would like to develop housing" but it sounds like they're flexible. "Owners were thinking $2/sf including build-out, don't know if they would be willing to go down to $1" but he didn't hang up on me. They'd like to rent whole floors but probably can subdivide.

06.10.09
* [[475 Valencia]] (at 16th). [http://www.salon.com/ent/log/1999/07/01/epicenter/ Has lots of history]. A listing [http://www.homes.com/listing/86230092/475_Valencia_SAN_FRANCISCO_CA_94103 here] says 5000 sq. feet and $6250.00 for the top (third) floor, $6750.00 for the second. That was in April, and they're both still empty, so that asking price may be way high.
**We will be viewing this space on Wednesday June 10 at 11am. Please meet at Noisebridge at 10:50am if you want to come with!

06.10.09
* [[2017 Mission]] This place is awesome, take a look at it http://www.flickr.com/photos/milohholim/sets/72157619567460316/

06.17.09
* [[275 8th St.]]
Photos at http://web.hexapodia.org/~adi/pix/20090618-275-8th-st/

06.17.09
* [[Oddfellows building, 7th and Market St.]]
Photos at http://web.hexapodia.org/~adi/pix/20090619-oddfellows/

06.21.09
* [[Moving/410_Clementina | 410 Clementina]]

06.23.09
* [[2394 Folsom Street]]
* [[301 8th Street]] Suite 333

== Places to Set Up Viewings ==

This is a list of places where we may want to set up a viewing. Please add and update status as needed.
* Sutter St at near Union Sq.
Up to 10,000 RSF at extremely low price!
Asking $1.00 per foot per month
Two separate Full Floor suites of 5,000 RSF each
Sublease up to February 2015 (shorter term considered)
Stable Sublandlord
Mixture of private offices and open space
HVAC
[[USER:Eri]] sent an email to arrange a viewing time for next week. Will post viewing time for anyone to come along.

* 942 Mission - approx 40,000 sqft. Four levels, industrial elevator + standard elevator. Basement was a shop & well ventilated (or could be again if the air filters were removed), first floor dungeon/bar/party/etc area, second floor offices/desks/etc, roof access with hot tub & bar. Has cat6 prewired; fiber termination point from IPNetworks. Some gated parking spaces. A block from Powell Street BART. Former Kink.com HQ's known as the Porn Palace; where the first Arse Electronika was hosted. Has multiple bathrooms, shower, laundry hookups, kitchen, etc. etc. etc.; two private entries hooked into prox card system (security system still in place); plus gates & drop door fences if needed. Neighbourhood sketch, but being gentrified slowly it seems - blue bottle coffee moved in next store bringing quality caffeine supply and the yuppies who buy it. Across the street from the Mezzaine. Many parties events held here for years without noise complaints. Power was sufficient for hundreds of computers, film lighting rigs, professional audio, shop equipment, welders, etc. etc. etc. Amazing space - was sold to property company over a year and a half ago, no one is renting it even now - should find out property management company and inquire about rental prices. They're losing money on their investment as it stands.

* 1385 Mission 3,350 sqft of clean, very bright space on the corner of Mission and 10^th – one and a half blocks from BART. We are asking $12/sqft/year - $3,350/month Details:
[[Image:1385MissionFlyer.jpg|400px|center]]

* 10th and Harrison - http://www.foundersrealty.com/cgi-local/viewer.cgi?action=display_rentals_detail&id=565

* [http://www.hcmcommercial.com/property_details.php?property_id=260 174 Shotwell (at 16th)]. Asking $6500/mo for 4800sf, so a bit out of our price-range, but I suspect that's a starting point for negotiation.

* [http://activspace.com/mission-2.html 3150 18th Street at Treat (Activspace)] They seem to focus on smaller spaces, but will apparently knock down walls to make a larger space.

* Erie off of Mission: Light Industrial shop for lease, 831-1600

[[Category:Potential Locations]]

Moving/2169 Mission

2009-07-14T23:55:15Z

Squiral: /* Visit planning */

= Overview =
* location on [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2169+Mission+St+San+Francisco,+CA+94110&sll=37.762302,-122.41938&sspn=0.010746,0.023357&ie=UTF8&z=17&iwloc=A Google Maps]
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/60801485@N00/sets/72157621249555632/ pictures] from initial visit

= Visits =
* Initial visit: 2009-07-10

== Visit planning ==
2009-07-14, 7:30 - 8:30 PM -- Schedule:
* 7:30 - teams below meet Henry at 2169 Mission to do specific tasks.
* 8:00 - general visit, all members are welcome to check out the space.
* 8:30 - membership meeting starts; <strike>at 2169 if Henry is OK with that, or else</strike> back at 83c.

The following tasks are planned starting at 7:30. If you'd like to help, please sign up below.
# measure the space
#* [[User:rachel|rachel]], Shannon Lee, gschmidt (50% probability, will have ultrasonic distance measurer if I make it)
# catalog installed utilities (electric, water, data, security)
#* [[User:adi|adi]], [[User:Squiral|Billy]]
# analyze electrical service
#* [[User:Jstockford|Jim]], [[User:joachimp|Joachim]]
# verify flooring, check for rot / broken joists / damage
#* [[User:Miloh|R.Miloh]], [[User:Saizai|<span style="color:#006633;font-weight:bold;">Sai Emrys</span>]] [[User_talk:Saizai|<span style="color:#0066CC;font-size:0.75em;">¿?</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Saizai|<span style="color:#663300;">✍</span>]]
# verify roof integrity, check for leaks / mold
#* dpc
# verify windows (how many are broken? how bad is the grouting? Do they open?)
#* [[User:Christie|Christie]] - will also check flooring around windows and rest of the space if time permitting.
# site survey for point-to-point wireless links

= Features =
* 12ft ceilings (approx)
* 5600sf quoted
* 3500lb freight elevator available from lobby
* $3600/mo 3yr lease quoted
* available now, would like us to move in 2009-08-01 or 2009-08-15; negotiable, but there's another tenant who is willing to start 2009-10-01 so if we don't preempt we lose the space.
* family owned, we talked to the son (seems like a nice guy with his shit together), they live in SF
* three stairwells plus front fire escape
* third floor of 3, 8 skylights (currently painted over), full floor
* access stairway shared with 2nd floor (which houses a garment manufacturing operation), with security gates on each floor.
* landlords OK with our membership structure and access philosophy
* no PGE gas lines in bldg
* concrete pillars with apparently wood frame floors (floor finished in mix of wood, linoleum, and tile)
* former sewing factory, tons of electrical distribution & comes with several Jukis!
* windows on Mission and on rear
* two tiny bathrooms
* many 8ft walls separating space are easily removed as we desire
* a few small full-height rooms, we would want to build out to our spec
* roof appears to be in reasonable shape
* roof access is through the space, available for antennas / repairs but not for general access (no roof deck or hottub)
* no HVAC
* has installed sprinklers, the landlord is going to have them serviced and certified before move-in
* utilities, garbage, etc are responsibility of tenant
* we are welcome to take out the existing dividing walls and build to suit

= Crime =
A search on [http://www.sfgov.org/crimemaps SF's crime map] of the area on Mission St between 16th St and 18th St (but largely not including 16th BART) has 51 incidents over the past 30 days:

6 assaults, 33 narcotics/drugs, 2 larceny/theft, 5 robberies, 3 vandalisms, and 2 vehicle thefts.

(I searched within 500 feet of the intersection of Mission St & 17th St which gave a near-perfect radius encompassing the walk from BART to this address, estimating the additional crime exposure we would have between this place and 83c)

= Questions =
* are property taxes responsibility of owner or of tenant? (is the lease [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_net_lease NNN]?)
** ''A copy of the proposed lease is in 83C in one of the membership binders in the kitchen cabinet. From my (Rachel's) reading of it, it's not triple Net; property taxes are not mentioned. We would be required to carry insurance but not, IIRC, against building issues. But we should doublecheck these things.''
* is there a water heater?
* is there Comcast in the building?
* what kind of ventilation is there for a kitchen, a shop, a photolab, and any other project that would require it?
** ''the front and rear window walls are easy to ventilate through. There are not vents in the roof and installing them would require a contractor -- not impossible, but a bit expensive. [[User:Adi|Adi]] 23:05, 10 July 2009 (PDT) ''
* how easy will it be to bring bikes in and out?
** ''Up two flights of stairs to the space, through a doorway. Easy to install bike racks as we choose. [[User:Adi|Adi]] 23:05, 10 July 2009 (PDT)''
* what are the electric and water bills of the last tenant for a few months? we'll have less electricity use most likely but possibly more water.
* is the space wheelchair accessible?
** ''There is a freight elevator that goes from the street level to the space. It may or may not be ADA compliant, but as a practical matter it will enable wheelchair users to get upstairs.'' [[User:Adi|Adi]] 20:57, 12 July 2009 (PDT)
* who pays for elevator maintenance?

ToorCamp 2009

2009-06-24T21:05:01Z

Squiral: /* People */ +1

== ToorCamp ==

Noisebridge is organizing a campsite at [http://wiki.toorcamp.org/wiki/Campsites:Noisebridge ToorCamp]!
We have a [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/toorcamp Mailing List]!

== Register! ==

Sign up with the discount code mentioned on [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2009-April/003908.html our list] soon!

== Events ==
Grey's going to DJ (I am? Ok, I guess I am! I'll bring turntables +mixer+tunes but someone have handy speaker setups?)

== Workshops ==

Which workshops should we host?

Jake's going to talk about Magstripes, Tor and GSM

== People ==

[[User:Ioerror|Jacob]] (And other ~5 Tor Project related people)

grey

[[User:Ryanc|ryanc]]

[[User:mrcamuti|Steve aka mooch]]

15 people from [http://protospace.ca Protospace], including [[User:ultramegaman|Paul]],[[User:int_80|DK]],[[User:ramburglar|ramburglar]],wintr + others

10 people from [http://vancouver.hackspace.ca VHS], including [[User:InfiL00p|Joe B]], spiri, infamy + others

[[User:Joachimp|Joachimp]]

Jonathan Moore

David Stainton

[[User:aeonsf|John Menerick]]

[[User:Turkshead|Shannon Lee]]

[[User:rubin110|rubin110]]

Alex Peake

<strike>[[User:adi|adi]] (60% probability)</strike> (0% probability)

Damian Johnson

Johannes of monochrom

Kelly

[[User:obscurite|Daniel Packer]]

[[User:miloh|r miloh]]

[[User:matt | matt]] +1

Sai - giving talk on telemarketing and workshop on meditation

[[User:CraSH|craSH]] (Seattle Wireless/Neg9 - Seattle)

Eric Butler (Seattle Wireless/Neg9 - Seattle)

Meta (Neg9 - Seattle)

Matt Westervelt (SeattleWireless / Metrix - Seattle)

Matthew Wilson (Seattle)

Lee Colleton (Seattle)

Duncan Smith (Seattle)

Andrew Filer (Seattle)

Kyle Drosdick (Seattle)

[[User:Leif|Leif]]

[[User:Squiral|Billy]]

== Travel ==

How will we all get there?

I'm planning to drive and have space for two people in my car in exchange for gas money. Please ask me about it on IRC or in person if you're interested. - [[User:Ryanc|Ryanc]]

I'm planning on taking my motorcycle or driving with a few coworkers. Ask me IRL or IRC if you want to catch a ride. - [[User:aeonsf|John Menerick]]

7 people can fit in a regular Toyota Sienna. It's $40/day + 0.10/mi = ~$500 to rent one from CityCarShare (incl. gas). In turn that costs $10/month membership (could be gotten for the corp though and spread out) + $30 enrollment fee per driver. So ~$600 total cost if nobody has CCS currently and we have to sign up two people. Split over 7, that's $85 per person total with reasonably low crampedness, $72 if we already have two people w/ CCS accounts. (For comparison: ZipCar costs $80/day w/ 180mi/day covered, 0.45/mi after that, i.e. ~$660 total.) - Sai

Further option: bandago.com 15-passenger Ford van (with wifi internet!) is $800 per their quote, NOT including gas, so ~$1100 total assuming ~13mpg. That's ~$75/person, iff you can get 15 people to commit. - Sai

grey has also reserved an RV and will be heading up approximately on the 30th or 1st and coming back by the 6th or 7th.

== Shelter ==

Are we renting an RV? Tents?
- grey has reserved an RV.

I have an army surplus tent that sleeps 6 comfortably that I'm bringing... as with rides, please talk to me on IRC or in person if you're interested in sharing. - [[User:Ryanc|Ryanc]]

Does anyone have Yurt that could be loaned?

Locksport

2009-06-18T21:41:43Z

Squiral:

== Locks! ==
Locks! is about learning about locks.

The goal is to learn about different methods about compromising locks, from shims, to picks, to bump keys, to hydrologic jacks. The goal is that it will be a hands on group with members sharing what they know.

If you are interested please leave your "name" here:
* Jonathan Moore
* [[User:charliep|Charlie]]
* [[User:MCT|Michael Toren]]
* [[User:Hardy stevenson|Hardy]] (yeah but when?????)
* [[Jeff Tchang]]
* [[Jon Starbuck]]
* [[User:Verbal|ian]]
* [[User:Squiral|Billy]]

French

2009-06-18T21:37:09Z

Squiral:

Meeting at 8:30 on Wednesday. More advanced students are encouraged to come around 9:00. We'll break around 10. '''We'll start our first class on 6/24.'''

'''A bit of background on me:'''

I lived in both France and Quebec for about 10 years. I learned to speak French while living in both places, so the French I'll be teaching is very much how people talk. Also, because I learned French by hearing and speaking it, my French writing skills are craptastic, so I am planning to focus more on conversational French. If someone else is a wiz at writing French, speak up!

If you could write down your name and your level of French below that would be really helpful.

I'll post some more resources on this page shortly :) -- Laura

'''Beginners'''
*[[user:maltman23|Mitch]] I can sorta order food in French.

'''Intermediate'''
*[[User:Noahbalmer|Noah]] - interested, but probably won't make it on many Wednesdays for a while - I can get around ok in French, but would need a lot of practice to become fluent
*[[User:Squiral|Billy]] - i've been out of practice since high school.

'''Advanced'''
*[[user:''your username here (if you have one)''|''your name here'']]