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User:Snail

2016-08-23T20:50:04Z

MaltedMan:

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User talk:Nthmost

2016-08-23T20:49:55Z

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User talk:Adi

2016-08-23T20:49:45Z

MaltedMan:

== The reasons ==

I exist as long as we have the following problems:

* people sleeping in Noisebridge
* membership being totally retarded
* people blocking unnecessarily
* idiots not getting banned for serious infractions

Fix Noisebridge before fixing the wiki.

Also I am making a document for the landlord. Don't think that I won't make this go nuclear. [[User:ImageReplacer|ImageReplacer]] ([[User talk:ImageReplacer|talk]]) 16:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
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User talk:Yesac

2016-08-23T20:49:32Z

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User talk:Maltman23

2016-08-23T20:49:25Z

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User talk:Robbintt

2016-08-23T20:49:15Z

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User talk:Patrickod

2016-08-23T20:49:04Z

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User:JeffreyATW

2016-08-23T20:48:53Z

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Hello! I'm Jeffrey Carl Faden! GGGRAAAIINNNNSSS.

Come to my [[Front-end Web Development|class]]!

My site is http://jeffreyatw.com

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A GPG-signed message with security and contact info is available here: http://jeffreyatw.com/static/id.txt

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User:AdrianChadd

2016-08-23T20:48:38Z

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=== Who am I? ===

Google "Adrian Chadd". I do open source wifi. I'm currently at Netflix doing bad things to FreeBSD for their video delivery mechanism.

I was a core developer on Squid (the web proxy/cache software) for almost ten years.

I also have a vast array of estoric knowledge from the 80s when 8 and 16-bit microcomputers ran wild. I was a child then but somehow I retained more than I thought.

=== Associate Membership ===
Please endorse me!
# [[User:JeffreyATW/Endorsements#AdrianChadd|JeffreyATW]]
# [[User:Jake|Jake]]
# [[User:Jarrod|Jarrod]] endorses AdrianChadd as an associate member of Noisebridge.
# [[User:Ravyn|Ravyn]] endorses AdrianChadd as an associate member of Noisebridge

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User:Rubin110

2016-08-23T20:47:18Z

MaltedMan:

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=Rubin Starset=

Hi, I'm Rubin. Most of the time my hair is colored bright. I enjoy helping to create moments that force people to question their notion of reality. If you search hard enough, you might be able to find out more about me. Though if you're lazy, you could just go [http://rubin.starset.net here].

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Gamebridge

2016-08-23T20:45:44Z

MaltedMan:

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<div style="font-size:16px;">Gamebridge Unityversity is a weekly Unity game development meetup and beginner-friendly class for anyone who wants to learn programming, game design, art, music, and how to teach game dev. All skill levels and kinds of game devs are welcome.</div>

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=== WHEN ===

Come to Noisebridge Tuesdays to learn to make games, music, art and hackerspace consensus.

* 5:00-7:00PM [[Songbridge]] music making group
* 7:00-8:00PM [[Artbridge]] art making group
* 8:30-9:30PM [[Meeting|Noisebridge Meeting]] learn to participate
* 9:00-11:00PM [[Gamebridge]] game development with Unity C#

Participants can join in Noisebridge meetings and learn how to take part in the community.

=== RELATED CLASSES ===
* Monday nights is [[Botbridge]] robot hacking. Learn to make robot bodies bridging game AIs into reality.
* Sunday mornings is [[Algorithms]] study group. Learn computer science techniques for problem solving.

=== WHERE ===
* Noisebridge @ 2169 Mission St. San Francisco ([[Getting here|Directions]])
* To enter, ring the payphone doorbell and you'll be buzzed in.
* Ask us for an access token to be able to enter without buzzing in.

=== WHAT WE TEACH ===
* Game development with Unity 5 & C#
* Teamwork with Git version control
* [[Songbridge|Music]] & [[Artbridge|2D/3D art]] production for games
* Game design and writing
* Whatever topics participants are interested in learning.
* See [[#CURRICULUM]] below.

=== SIGN UP FOR OUR MAILING LIST===

=== CONTACT OUR MENTORS ===
Contact our volunteer mentors who lead tutorials every week.
* Alex Peake, Game Developer, [http://www.primerlabs.com Primer Labs, [https://noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Lxpk Alex Peake] at empowerthyself @ gmail DOT com
* Mark
* Brennan Hatton
* Bud Leiser, Game Designer, [http://www.budleiser.com BudLeiser.com], [http://www.budleiser.com/game-dev-dictionary/ Game Dev Glossary], [http://www.budleiser.com/game-assets/ Game Assets List]

=== THINGS TO BRING ===

* Laptops, especially ones with decent 3D graphics cards. To run [http://www.unity3d.com Unity3D] you'll need one running Mac or Windows.
* Mouse (trackpads are hard to use for 3D and game dev).
* [http://www.unity3d.com Unity] pre-installed
* iPhones, Androids, VR headsets, AR headsets, Apple TVs & other cool game hardware devices
* Adapters you may need to hook your laptop to the big projector screen to show off your games and development processes to the group

=== PREPARATION BEFORE CLASS ===

* Do some [http://www.unity3d.com/learn Unity Learn tutorials] and allocate some time each week to continue doing more.

== PRESS COVERAGE ==
* Gamebridge is the subject of [http://www.examiner.com/article/a-place-to-learn-unity-game-engine-san-francisco an article written about in the Examiner by David Cox], who teaches game design at SFCC.

== GROUP PROJECTS ==
We are working together on several projects:

=== HackerspacesApp ===
The Hackerspaces app is a 3D browser of the hackerspaces on and around Earth.
* Clone our repository at the [https://github.com/Gamebridge/HackerspacesApp HackerspacesApp repo on Github]
* Help us develop it further

=== Gamebridge FPS ===
A collaborative game project in which we explore new tutorials every week.

=== Hack The Future tutorials ===
We are working on developing new Unity tutorials for future hackers to do at [http://www.hackthefuture.org Hack The Future] events.
* [[Unity Mentoring Event Prep]]
* [[Unity Interface]] by Alex
* [[Unity Trigger Tutorial]] by Alex
* [[Gamebridge/Coin Tutorial]] by Matt
* [[Unity Projectile Tutorial]] by Chris
* [[Unity Art Tutorial]] by Jarvis
* [[Unity Block Placing Script]] by Trevor
* [[Unity Mecanim Animation Tutorial]] by Mark
* add more here.

=== Simbridge hackerspace simulator ===

[[Simbridge]] is one of our group projects. It is a collaboratively created virtual Noisebridge game. Learn more about how to help simulate Noisebridge and learn Unity, C# and 3D art in the process!

=== Mixed Reality Project / Hackerspace Creator ===

w/ Valentin Burov and Mark Willson

Help create a [[Mixed Reality Project]] for use with your smartphone and Cardboard or other like devices!

===CURRICULUM===

You can teach yourself the curriculum taught at Gamebridge by following the Gamebridge Tutorials and Unity Learn tutorials.
* Feel free to add new lesson ideas there and let us know if you have suggestions.
* Deprecated: [[GameDevelopmentCourseware]]

=== THE UNITY 5 GAME ENGINE ===

The Unity 5 game engine is industry standard and the full-featured personal edition is free. It can compile your games for HTML5 web, Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android, XBox One, PS4, Nintendo Wii U and many others. It is the industry standard for many reasons:

* Support for making 3D and 2D games with ready-to-use 3D 1st person, 3D 3rd person, 2D sidescroller and 2D overhead rogue-like RPG characters as well as rolling balls, cars and aircraft.
* Lots of documentation, tutorials and even online classes from schools to learn Unity.
* The ability to build once and launch on multiple platforms.
* Relatively easy coding framework to learn.
* Also as a designer it cannot be understated the usefulness of being able to play the game at any moment without waiting for a build cycle, and the ability for developers to list important features as Public Var's which unity will automatically look for and generate slider scales that designers can modify without having to touch the code base.
* The largest user base. This is important because at some point you will need to work with others to make great games, and if everyone else is already using Unity they will not likely switch to your engine or preference....unless you pay them.
* The Unity asset store is another way for developers, artists and musicians to make money by creating game tools/assets. But it's also a way to develop your own games much much faster.

===Unity Editor for Linux===
I (Alex) now maintain a Linux desktop running Unity editor for testing purposes and I can recommend it though Mac and Windows builds are still more stable and supported. [[http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/unity-on-linux-release-notes-and-known-issues.350256/#post-2648924 Unity's Linux release notes thread]] always has the latest download links.

== GROUP INFO ==

===HISTORY===

We had our first meetup November 2012 November 4th and it was a lot of fun. We made a game about evil companion cubes that want to give you a hug for very explosive definitions of hug. We were on hiatus for a while while Alex was away but we're back in action.

= GAME DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES =

You can download an abundance of free resources such as code, art, tools and audio to make your game awesome.

== Game Engines ==
Game engines make it pretty easy to develop games by giving you lots of development tools for world building and scripting.

We're interested in other kinds of game development too, including non-computer game designs like dice-based RPGs, board games and card games.

== Unity ==
[http://www.unity3d.com Unity] is an awesome game development engine based on Mono that compiles for Mac, Windows, iPhone, Web and Wii with support coming soon for PS3 and XBox. Unity has just been made free for indy developers. Unity is an extremely easy to learn game development environment with a massively helpful developer community.

We are primarily teaching and collaborating with Unity in Game Club because it is incredibly awesome and easy to learn.

===Unity On Ubuntu===
*[http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23757 Unity3D on Wine] works with only a couple small bugs so you can create Unity games on Ubuntu too!
*[http://www.winehq.org/download Install WINE] for Ubuntu

=== Unity Tutorials ===
'''START HERE:''' [http://unity3d.com/learn Unity Tutorials] are free to download and can be completed in a day or two! Do these before coming or do them with us to get help and support.

*C# is the language you should learn to do Unity programming.
*Javascript (Actually a variant called Unityscript) is also supported but no longer recommended.
**Before beginning the Unity tutorials it is useful (but not required) to understand basic javascript programming.
**[http://www.unity-tutorials.com/free-tutorial-download.php Unityscript Beginning Scripting Tutorial (Free with an email)]
*Unity Gameplay Creation Tutorials
**[http://unity3d.com/support/resources/tutorials/2d-gameplay-tutorial.html Unity 2D Platformer Tutorial]
*Professional Unity Tutorials
**[http://www.unity-tutorials.com/ Unity-Tutorials.com] has $15 tutorials on topics like particles, gizmos, character rigging, animation and Cheetah 3D.

== Other Game Engines ==
There are other game engines.

*[http://www.udk.com/ Unreal Development Kit] is also available for free now. We'll no doubt be playing with that as well. Unreal is some seriously advanced game dev technology.
*Objective C: Some people are making iPhone games directly in Cocoa.
*Blender Game Engine: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Blender Blender Game Engine] is an open-source game engine integrated with the [http://www.blender.org Blender] 3D studio software. It has come a long way in recent versions and some of the games people have made with it are amazing.
*OGRE Open Source 3D Engine: [http://www.ogre3d.org/ OGRE] is not a full game engine but it does have Mac, Windows, Linux and iPhone support. It has recently been used to make a big hit called Torchlight.
*SDL: [http://www.libsdl.org/ SDL] is a cross-platform open-source game development library that has been used to make [http://source.bungie.org/get/ Aleph One] based on the Marathon series.
*Three.js: [http://threejs.org/ ThreeJS] javascript WebGL/OpenGL wrapper for in-browser gamedev

== Game Development Tools ==
Game development involves lots of tools for modeling, sculpting, texturing, rigging and animating game environments.

=== Yobi3D ===
[http://www.yobi3d.com/ Yobi3D] is a 3D model search engine. You can search with simple keywords and see the results in 3D.

=== SketchUp ===
[http://sketchup.google.com/ SketchUp] is a surprisingly powerful and incredibly easy to use 3D modeling application for making basic 3D geometry to use in your game development.

=== Google 3D Warehouse ===
[http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ Google 3D Warehouse] is a searchable library of free 3D models in SketchUp format that you can download freely and use in your games. You can also upload your own creations to 3D Warehouse.

=== FreeSound Project ===
[http://www.freesound.org/searchText.php FreeSound Project] is a searchable library of free sound files that you can use in your games. You can also upload your sounds to FreeSound for others to use.

=== All CG Textures ===
[http://www.allcgtextures.com/main.php All CG Textures] has loads of quality free textures.

=== Maya ===
[http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=13578047&siteID=123112 Maya] is the #1 3D content creation tool for games.

We're looking for people with Maya experience who can teach how to use Maya. Especially interested in learning about character rigging and animation.

=== Blender ===
[http://www.blender.org/ Blender] is an open-source 3D studio that can do mostly the same things as Maya for free. We're looking for people who want to teach Blender skills.

=== 3D Character Rigs ===
[http://hznaqnzxuoouxznqanzh.creativecrash.com/maya/downloads/character-rigs/c/ Creative Crash] has many free 3D character rigs in Maya format.

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Category talk:Events

2016-08-23T20:45:27Z

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==teaching basic HTML5/CSS3 for static pages==
hi,
I"m a new participant at noisebridge but i have a group of women that are interesed in learning the basics of building a webpage. I would like to give the class at noisebridge , if anyone has any reservations or
any opinions please let me know. I also am wondering where I go to find the room reservation schedules. thanks in advance
Erika

:Hi Erika: we have no room reservation system. Please check the "Upcoming Events" and "Recurring Events" sections on the main noisebridge.net page, and find an time/location where no one is using the space. If you can, it's a good idea (but not required) to go to a weekly Tuesday meeting to introduce yourself and learn about Noisebridge before setting up a class. 
:-- Mitch.
Hi Mitch,
Completely understand. I met JOhn the other night while i was there and he suggested that I go ahead and post up here incase someone else had already started something like this. I"m trying to make a tuesday meeting, but so far, I've had to work so haven't been able to . I'll be at noisebridge tonight and tomorrow night working on a project and would love to meet you, if we haven't already. I believe we might have briefly.
thanks and look forward to meeting you
Erika



== Looking for help to set up an event: OOTSIDEBOX project presentation at NOISEBRIDGE ==

Hi There,

I'm Jean Noël and I'm looking for help to finalize the organization of this event on Sat november 23th:
https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Www.OOTSIDEBOX.com_making_NOISE_in_California

I plan to have up to 20 particpants, 10 guys already confirmed that they will come.
To find out more about OOTSIDEBOX project:

http://www.ootsidebox.com
http://ootsidebox.blogspot.fr/2013/10/7-key-concepts-underlaying-design-of.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrTROLLEEN

Waiting for reply...

Best Regards
Jean Noel jnl.ootsidebox@gmail.com

== FWD Events Re-Direction ==
There is no reason to mention that I post my events to noisebridge-discuss and noisebridge-announce, "invariably" or not.

No one benefits from that information on the event listing - I'm trying to keep my description lean. [[User:JeffreyATW|JeffreyATW]] ([[User talk:JeffreyATW|talk]]) 20:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for using this Category_talk:Events section. 
But no, a certain percentage of people invariably see the fairly brief wiki event description here before viewing the listserve posting (assuming they're subscribed to either listserve). They'll subsequently be able to use the Discuss/Announce re-direction in its current state to effectively see timely reminders of the bi-weekly FWD highlights. 
As a beneficial use-case scenario for those of us (who shall remain nameless) solely wishing to glean highlights of bi-weekly FWD events, this very re-direction filters out the large amount of discussion "noise" even better than subscribing to the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss Discuss list] in Daily Digest mode.

Let's please keep it that way.

== [[JavaScript]] Edits ==
The simple idea here is that beginning programmers are more likely to pick up JS material through the more elementary [[Front-end Web Development]] material than they necessarily would be from the EcmaScript programming language, DOM, Object Oriented JavaScript, and Events covered in THIS particular advanced [[JavaScript]] class. The FWD instructor, [[User:JeffreyATW|JeffreyATW]], even routinely provides live video streams of the class for the convenience of his students (see [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/webdev/2014-February/000237.html]).

All in all, EVERYONE benefits by directing inexperienced coders to learn JS and other FWD techniques from the [[Front-end Web Development]] class and directing more experienced web developers and programmers of other languages to the [[JavaScript]] class.

== [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] electing '''Nuclear option''' ==
11:47, 16 May 2014‎ [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|Talk]] | contribs)‎ m . . (0)‎ . . (Protected "Category:Events": Excessive vandalism (‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) ‎[move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite)))

Okay, what's done is done. 

== '''Can''' We Have an Actual Dialog Perhaps, Regarding the Nuclear option? ==

(Please continue to undercomment on the below discussion)

Naomi Theora, quite the disappointment that you remain bored and annoyed! 

''If you participated in administrating the wiki, you'd be bored and annoyed too. Would you like to participate? By the way, no one calls me "Naomi Theora", so don't call me that.'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

As yet another anonymous Tor Coward ('tho not a troll as the recent person submitting huge saggy 8008s pr0n), I am in favor of not only KEEPING BENEFICIAL ANONYMOUS COMMENTS, but also keeping ''some'' of the wikis anonymously editable.

''In that case, you already have what you wish. 98% of this wiki is still anonymously editable.'' 
''ed1: perhaps this just ain't so...''

''[Then you would be arguing a factual inaccuracy. I'm not sure why you would pick on a demonstrably provable statement like that.]'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 16:48, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

While there no doubt '''will''' be further wiki vandalism -- hopefully many fewer of those nasties aimed at Johny-Radio as of late >:O[ -- I still think the benefits of allowing limited anonymous edits outweigh the risks. 

''Easy for you to say when you're not the one putting out the fires. We'd really, really like to spend more of our time doing constructive things for Noisebridge. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)''

Even as you are likely reading this now, Naomi Theora, Sat night's apres-MakerFaire Party '''remains''' listed on the [https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Category:Events Wiki Events section]; after MakerFaire itself and well over a full day past the Party event's ending.

''Anyone with a User account can edit that page. The question remains why it seems necessary for someone like yourself to remain "anonymous" in a particular manner, i.e. refusing to make a User account, when it is no less anonymous in the real sense of the word. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)'' 
''ed1: yet '''again''' pushing for named User-account creation and potential '''traceability''' issues...see below bulleted refs.'' 

At the same time, we all (most of us anyway) Got Lives and are regularly busy working at our jobs. That obviously includes you, Naomi Theora, as well as other admins. Granting anonymous editing in situations such as the above would (a) greatly reduce efforts to have past listings linger on the main Wiki and (b) allow for much faster transitions from proposed [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss Discuss list] events into beneficial Wiki listings.

''I'm not convinced by the urgency argument. See previous comment. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)'' 
''ed1: [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] unconvinced by '''any part''' of the above arguments? 
''ed1: Still no movement that the stale Party-listing gets de-listed.''

Also see the Allow arguments at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaiwen1/Vote_to_prohibit_anonymous_edits Vote to prohibit anonymous edits] you previously reviewed on the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss Discuss list]. 

''Yeah, interesting thing about that page: I've learned though it that Noisebridge and Wikipedia are not alike in many respects. Wikipedia notably has thousands of admins, plus a page specifically devoted to finding admins who are willing to take the personal risks associated with taking action against "difficult" users. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admins_willing_to_make_difficult_blocks

''Noisebridge also has no imperative to allow anonymous editing via the "this is how we get quality editors" argument at Wikipedia. Noisebridge gets quality community members in several different ways. Wikipedia only has one way: editing. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)''

In order to decrease the desire (yours?) to trace beneficial contributors, I've re-prioritized the Options at our disposal: 
* '''user and wiki pages' discussion (a.k.a. "talk") sections'''
* creating an "admin-acceptable" user account, possibly by using Tor and an anonymized email address
''.... ed1: "admin-acceptable" might also indicate admins' preference for accounts that are most readily traceable.''
* emailing someone personally from such an anonymized and admin-acceptable email address
* [https://slack.com/privacy-policy Slack]
* the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss nb discuss list]
* the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/rack rack list]

Just curious, Naomi Theora, are you even going so far as to consider deleting '''this''' Discussion Talk section as you did for your [[https://noisebridge.net/wiki/User_talk:Nthmost|Talk Talk page]]; due not only to the obvious chance of open vandalism as well as for reasons of your self-described boredom/annoyance/tiredness??

Because if you are, then that would clearly shut down yet another extra means of gaining constructive input. 

''No, of course not. Even if this discussion veered towards the abusive (which it somewhat has, but I'm letting it go), I'm not in the business of shutting down dialog.'' 
''ed1: well... '''I never''', harumph harumph! (tone policing)'' 

''I AM, however, finding that it takes some bold action to get people talking about issues people have been avoiding.''

''As for my Talk page: there was only pr0n on my Talk page and nothing even remotely constructive in that page's History. It made sense to Delete it. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)''

And No b/c you inevitably bring this up, this particular anonymous Tor Coward is completely unable to attend the weekly SF meetings at night in person nor the various night workgroup sessions you've recently established. 

(Again, please continue to undercomment on the above discussion) 

''That's fine. That's why I'm continuing this discussion HERE, where you are, rather than insisting it occur elsewhere, like the mailing list or something. We shouldn't be pushing all discussion though the Meetings either. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)''

== Dear 188.138.9.49 ==

Are you going to respond to the questions I have posed about how best to protect everyone's interests? Or are you just going to keep shouting in the wiki edit history and reviving things I wrote that I decided to delete?

--[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

'''Attention: It is super important to 188.138.9.49 that the following text stay on this page:''' 
''Apparently so''

Dearly misguided,

It would be easier to take suggestions if they actually, you know, came to our attention in some way. I'm not going to keep watching these Talk pages ''[correction: apparently I am --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 17:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)]''. The only reason I'm even here is that someone noticed a bunch of anonymous trollish edits coming from a particular IP address and sent me a link.

Options at your disposal:

* creating a user account, possibly by using Tor and an anonymized email address.
* user and wiki pages' discussion (a.k.a. "talk") sections
* the nb-discuss list
* Slack
* emailing someone personally
* the rack list

The so-called "nuclear option" (which isn't very "nuclear" at all; "nuclear" would be to wipe the whole wiki VM and start over) is temporary and only applies to a few pages. Feel free to troll elsewhere -- somewhere that doesn't matter as much to the continued well-being of the community.

It's of benefit to no-one to erase or make malicious subtle edits to event listings. If you're doing this, go do something productive for a change.
--[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 22:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

== ==

Current [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] edit leaves in-place an uber-untidy description redundancy ''[oh, sorry. err, why didn't you just edit it yourself? See questions below.'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 21:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)]

and [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] shows '''zero''' signs of "temporarily" relenting on the Nuclear option applying to the most valid editable wiki pages. 

[''The "nuclear option" would be disallowing editing from non-admins, which hasn't been done and will not be done.'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 21:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)]

Regardless of [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]]'s devious plans to eliminate anonymous ''edits'' (as below), let us hope that we '''all''' can contribute anonymous ''comments'' and beneficial comments that '''won't get so maliciously and quickly erased!''' 

[''My apologies; honestly didn't mean to disrespect anyone's voice. Trust that it wasn't malice, at least. Besides, if I were really trying to be devious, I would have created a new admin account and protected the front page with THAT, so that people wouldn't know it was me.'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 21:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)]

... or [[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] and her powerful committee-members can continue to blithely ignore suggestions like these 
Whatever...... 

[''Help me out here: how would YOU solve the problem of keeping the admins from getting burnt out defending the Event listings and other important noisebridge things from opportunistic destructive (not even interesting) trolling?'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 21:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)]

[By the way,

* *I took the above suggestion and made the edit.*

The current protection level is "block new and unregistered users from editing".

Is there some reason why making an account and editing a page is out of the question? I am honestly trying to understand.

''ed1: Maybe b/c of the issue of continued tracing by the "Bad Cop(s)"??'' 
* [http://www.labnol.org/internet/find-person-by-email-address/13913/ www.labnol.org/internet/find-person-by-email-address/13913/] 
* [http://www.ehow.com/how_4744576_determine-sent-anonymous-email.html www.ehow.com/how_4744576_determine-sent-anonymous-email.html] 
* [http://www.ehow.com/how_5158778_sender-anonymous-email.html www.ehow.com/how_5158778_sender-anonymous-email.html] 
* [http://www.ehow.com/how_6811426_track-anonymous-email.html www.ehow.com/how_6811426_track-anonymous-email.html] 
* ''Insert your next favorite we-eventually-gonna-catch-you reference here ''

''OK, that's something. Thank you (whomever) for finally providing a concrete rationale.'' --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 16:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Anyone who wished to remain "anonymous" could easily still use a Tor node, create a throwaway email address to use for wiki editing, and make a meaninglessly-named user account. The point of protecting against anonymous editing is to create a friction to opportunistic destructive trolling.

I'm not try to be a dictator, 
''ed1: Of course not'' 
I'm trying to protect everyone's interests. This is just an experiment and feedback is welcome (despite my initial knee-jerk reaction, which is why I deleted this section before.) 
''ed1: Of course this is "just an experiment" '' 
I'll leave it here, since it's important to you.

--[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 21:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

== Other opinion'''s''' ==

Anonymous edits should be banned. It's not difficult to make an account. The anonymous wiki vandalism wastes everyone's time. You can still be a member of the community and not sign everything with your Firstname and Lastname. 

Anonymous edits should '''not''' be banned. Anonymous contributors would rather avoid creating traceable accounts. Some -- though of course not all -- of these anonymous contributors have '''zero''' interest in vandalizing the wiki and wasting their and admins' time. Believe it or not, such anonymous contributors may wish to remain good "members of the community" without any desire to become openly (or secretly) flushed out by the Noisebridge BoDs and/or admins. 

Why do you think editing anonymously is anonymous at all? The edit appears under your 'ip address' . This is like people who think bitcoin is anonymous.

''Well, it's kind of a numbers game, honestly. Are there enough "good anons" to balance out the hit we take from "bad anons"? How would we even know? Admins only experience this ratio via the hit on their own time. Right now, the ratio doesn't look terrible, but it's veering towards bad.''

''Anyway, I'm turning off the protection to these pages now that Maker Faire is over. --[[User:Nthmost|Nthmost]] ([[User talk:Nthmost|talk]]) 16:54, 20 May 2014 (UTC)''

== Relying upon Meetup instead of on Noisebridge Wiki? ==

The Wed, April 22th, 19:00 to 22:00 Emacs SF Meetup event currently relies entirely upon its [http://www.meetup.com/Emacs-SF/events/221733050/ Meetup listing]. 
There is an appropriate link about relying too much on Meetups entitled [http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/meetup.html Meetup: The Good, the Bad, and the Policy] 
Perhaps one or more of the organizers of the Wed, April 22th event will take points from the link into consideration, and create a however-brief Noisebridge wiki page on this event? 
It's actually '''super'''-easy to create a Noisebridge wiki page on an event or class... even easier than learning about Spacemacs and Gnus ;)

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== reverend mik ==

stop delting my edits!!!! everybody knows hes not allowed back and hes spreading a bunch of garbage about noisebrigde! why am i the only one who cares about this????

- Hello previous poster. This is the Streisand Effect. If you call attention to the Reverend Mik entity disparaging Noisebridge... you have let him win. He's not hanging around the space anymore, why bother recognizing him?

- Also I'd probably stop deleting your entry if you used coherent sentences with proper spelling. The wiki is in English, use proper English.

== Censorship of Situation with RayC ==

Most recent December 17th version of [https://noisebridge.net/wiki/User:JeffreyATW JeffreyATW]'s excision of the uncensored text of RayC banning incident here is as follows: 
''Was caught living on top of the building's elevator in February-2014, and was banned for 6 months as a warning. He was caught living in the space again in December-2014. His health problems make it nearly impossible to trust what he will or not do in the future, since we are assuming he is not taking care of himself, and he has come across as severely disruptive to a select few of us in the Noisebridge community as of late. Therefore, [https://noisebridge.net/wiki/User:maltman23 Mitch] has [https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_12_16 non-consensually decreed Rayc as unfit to be allowed into Noisebridge] ever again, despite the latter's many excellent efforts on behalf of the space over the last several years up to the present and despite a few of his contacts having access to valuable items recently requested for the space; such valuable items as donatable 24 and 48-port Gigabit Ethernet switches, extensive construction material (large boards for multiple kickass library bookcases),...etcetera.'' --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/188.138.1.229 188.138.1.229] 16:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

+ Anonymous edit bros unite --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/76.14.67.253 76.14.67.253] 09:43, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 
~''Anonymous IP address [https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/76.14.67.253 76.14.67.253] maps to'' 
Wave Broadband (WAVEB), 401 Kirkland Park Place, Kirkland,WA 
''Interestingly, it turns out that links on the 86 page for the banning of Shawn Landden from the space in 2013 shows that Shawn was imprisoned for a time in Bellingham,WA; a quick ~1.5hr drive North from WAVEB's Kirkland address.'' 
''Speculation on that?'' --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/5.196.1.129 5.196.1.129] 00:09 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 
+ Yeah, definitly agree with the 1st para above. [https://noisebridge.net/wiki/User:maltman23 Mitch] and the NB cabal's basically thrown Rayce to the dogs in 86ing him at the last meeting. Nobody there big enough to stand up for Rayce and against "Scrooge" Altman before scrooge altm,an set up a Ghost of Christmas future :( --Blessed be podinski to at least try to put in [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-December/045773.html a good word for Rayce] :) --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/37.220.35.61 37.220.35.61] 07:09, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

+ to anonymous IP [https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/37.220.35.61 37.220.35.61] poster, 
If person posting from IP address [https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/76.14.67.253 76.14.67.253] '''is''' Shawn Landden or another anonymous supporter of RayC, one way to probe whether or not the moderator cabal can keep ignoring you is by lightly hacking the currently unprotected user pages of [[User:JeffreyATW|JeffreyATW]], [[User:maltman23|Mitch]], [[User:Rubin110|Rubin]], [[User:Tdfischer|Torrie]], [[User:bfb|Kevin]]. Nothing too vicious mind you, just enough to get their attention should be all ;) --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/209.239.123.90 209.239.123.90] 21:06, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Don't live in the space. That's all we ask. --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/67.169.39.223 67.169.39.223] 17:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC) 
''and speaking about living, '''#HackerLivesMatter'''....Rayce's!'' --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/128.204.207.215 128.204.207.215] 16:28, 20 December 2014 (UTC) 

'''oh man you went there''' --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/76.14.67.253 76.14.67.253] 19:08, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

he got banned for real, then he started living in the space.
what more do you want --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/76.14.67.253 76.14.67.253] 19:12 19:12 20 December 2014 (UTC)

'''#HackerLivesMatter''' --[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/173.228.80.252 173.228.80.252] 11:38, 21 December 2014

I find the hashtag #HackerLivesMatter super offensive and you should all feel bad. 
--[https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/173.228.80.252 173.228.80.252] 14:40, 21 December 2014

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