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Meeting Notes 2014 11 18

2014-11-19T05:08:02Z

Iisjade:

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 336th Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: Pod and Jade; Moderator: Kevin and Torrie.
* '''NB hackerspace community run by volunteers, be excellent, doacracy, run by us ...'''

= Attendance =
Monad: full and round tinkering , making things

mike: from meetings at muddys 2009 , b4 the space ...
sense of community...

alma: a project about electro-magnetic radiation, maker garments

mohammed: mechanical engineer, micro-controllers, maker community thru tech shop, 3d modelling class, need for people to create helping community.... met noisebridge at a diificult time, came to help during the reboot. bring new ideas and new classes, helping to make a better place. inviting the maker community.

RAYC: hack the planet ,,, hacker movie ... had a good idea.

torrie: Xbees

gustavo: audio, artists

eric:world bank

jade: neural hacking , pyschology, tutoring

james: theater artist, more things at NB

marcell: for 8 months, loves it

stephanie, e. engineeer, lokng for jobs, new

steve: coders

pod:

kevin:

sam:

emerson:

patrick

david: consensus experience

= Short announcements and events =
-eff rally on THIS Thurs. !!
- Sa 22nd - holiday party this weekend,
3 musical acts, new to the space... sudo room, 7pm , potluck, ...
-indiegogo stuff, shit needs to get sent out
- electrical reboot, updates...
85% rebooted awesome. agenda item

= [[ Membership Binder ]] =
membership at NB...

consensus,... lalala ...

important that comments about a person applying should probably not be in the notes...

*steve young
( 2signatures ) 2nd week read.
*sam tupper
( 2sponsors )

= Financial Report =
* $28,000
= Consensus items =

== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
kevin: rfid keys
access rules.

torrie explains the system of rfid access...

proposal:
members can give access, distribute keys
suggested that the consensus on it happens when the system is fully in place.
is it related to closing hours?
no.
idea of a 3rd permission, access to outer gate, but not inner.
securing the gate upstairs is essential, downstairs is not secured.
permission to grant
mitch talked about taking responsibility of guests.
closing hours
access issues going up the chain, responsibility ( trickle down responsibility )

steve: don't let someone in unless u want to take responsibility.
who gets RFID tags? members? - no

RAYC: there is a horrible things that have caused a huge divide b/w members and those of the community - trust issues, a)membership spacific is problemmatic. - unexellence

Kevin: critique of status quo is valid but off topic. James's suggestion of key revocation leads me to the question: what is the process of revoking keys.

James: the process wouldn't neccessarily work for noisebridge. A tree of trust could work.

Monad: have a record of who sponsored who, the whole chain, you can track them.

James: Can notice increased acitivity after an event where access codes were given out, and we can revoke that code.

Kevin: cool with tracking as long as the web is public.

Patrick: A lighter take, revoking a key doesn't mean you're banned.

RAYC: Should be vetting process, maybe 2 members and 2 other community members vets you before you're granted with privilleges.

Torrie: Topics, Key revocation, and vetting new keys

Mohammad: vetting keys, maybe 3 ppl with keys should agree together before a new key is granted

Monad: this topic is messy

James: This is a public system, but at the same time respect ppl's anominity.

Marcell: if one is not around to be responsible for someone on your tree, your key will also be revoked

Monad: One guy does something, you ask him who's sponsoring him, and he tells you to go to hell - how do we deal with that.

James: Check their card

Steve: I've given a keycode to someone and they fucked up - now it's my responsibilty to come to the meeting. I'm just going to revoke his key, before anyone else does. You don't need to go to the meeting, you just need to kill him before someone kills you.

RAYC: should be a working group for this. there are a lot of good points and constructive dialog.

James: how can we find out what the RFID ppl want, how can we talk to them about this?

Torrie: There is a slack channel: The Security Working Group, talk to Henner Casey.

= Discussion Notes =
Torrie: Working on 3D printers working!

RAYC: Inspection is going to be the week after this. We are not done with the list of things that Neil recommended we do, crucial need to
pass inspection things. Sheet Rocking - Back stairs flooring - board with list of other things that need to be done. This is crunch time! We need more volunteer help. 36 hours left of work to do. We need to get this done! Anytime really does help.

James: What needs to be done this week and then the following week?
Torrie: Working on stairwell in back.

RAYC: Spoke to ppl about flooring, plans are more set. No construction experience required. Majority of work left is sheet rocking, mudding and patching - to pass the one-hour fire rule. Let's shoot for Thursday evening - critical mass at 6pm. Call for shopping list.

Torrie: Need to organize IndieGoGo and mail gifts out. We have yet to fulfill any of the perks. Stickers and evelopes need to be packed and mailed. We need a book of stamps (~100). There is a list of the people, their addresses, and their perks to be mailed out. We need about 9 more hacker suvieners. T-shirts need to be packed and mails. Need to 3D print Empor Norton crowns.

RAYC: I will work with others to organize and stay in sync with IndieGoGo donors. Thank you letter could be improved.

Kevin: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Pod: when you have big tasks, we should make a public posting, a shout out for people to come over and help.

Torrie: Saturday at noon.

RAYC: For IndieGoGo, have a list of what we are doing: we need 77 keys

James: Will look at list of things to do.

Meeting Ajounred.

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Meeting Notes 2014 11 18

2014-11-19T05:07:26Z

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Don't forget to '''post the meeting notes to the wiki''' and e-mail the discussion list with a short summary.

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 336th Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: Pod and Jade; Moderator: Kevin and Torrie.
* '''NB hackerspace community run by volunteers, be excellent, doacracy, run by us ...'''

= Attendance =
Monad: full and round tinkering , making things

mike: from meetings at muddys 2009 , b4 the space ...
sense of community...

alma: a project about electro-magnetic radiation, maker garments

mohammed: mechanical engineer, micro-controllers, maker community thru tech shop, 3d modelling class, need for people to create helping community.... met noisebridge at a diificult time, came to help during the reboot. bring new ideas and new classes, helping to make a better place. inviting the maker community.

RAYC: hack the planet ,,, hacker movie ... had a good idea.

torrie: Xbees

gustavo: audio, artists

eric:world bank

jade: neural hacking , pyschology, tutoring

james: theater artist, more things at NB

marcell: for 8 months, loves it

stephanie, e. engineeer, lokng for jobs, new

steve: coders

pod:

kevin:

sam:

emerson:

patrick

david: consensus experience

= Short announcements and events =
-eff rally on THIS Thurs. !!
- Sa 22nd - holiday party this weekend,
3 musical acts, new to the space... sudo room, 7pm , potluck, ...
-indiegogo stuff, shit needs to get sent out
- electrical reboot, updates...
85% rebooted awesome. agenda item

= [[ Membership Binder ]] =
membership at NB...

consensus,... lalala ...

important that comments about a person applying should probably not be in the notes...

*steve young
( 2signatures ) 2nd week read.
*sam tupper
( 2sponsors )

= Financial Report =
* $28,000
= Consensus items =

== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
kevin: rfid keys
access rules.

torrie explains the system of rfid access...

proposal:
members can give access, distribute keys
suggested that the consensus on it happens when the system is fully in place.
is it related to closing hours?
no.
idea of a 3rd permission, access to outer gate, but not inner.
securing the gate upstairs is essential, downstairs is not secured.
permission to grant
mitch talked about taking responsibility of guests.
closing hours
access issues going up the chain, responsibility ( trickle down responsibility )

steve: don't let someone in unless u want to take responsibility.
who gets RFID tags? members? - no

RAYC: there is a horrible things that have caused a huge divide b/w members and those of the community - trust issues, a)membership spacific is problemmatic. - unexellence

Kevin: critique of status quo is valid but off topic. James's suggestion of key revocation leads me to the question: what is the process of revoking keys.

James: the process wouldn't neccessarily work for noisebridge. A tree of trust could work.

Monad: have a record of who sponsored who, the whole chain, you can track them.

James: Can notice increased acitivity after an event where access codes were given out, and we can revoke that code.

Kevin: cool with tracking as long as the web is public.

Patrick: A lighter take, revoking a key doesn't mean you're banned.

RAYC: Should be vetting process, maybe 2 members and 2 other community members vets you before you're granted with privilleges.

Torrie: Topics, Key revocation, and vetting new keys

Mohammad: vetting keys, maybe 3 ppl with keys should agree together before a new key is granted

Monad: this topic is messy

James: This is a public system, but at the same time respect ppl's anominity.

Marcell: if one is not around to be responsible for someone on your tree, your key will also be revoked

Monad: One guy does something, you ask him who's sponsoring him, and he tells you to go to hell - how do we deal with that.

James: Check their card

Steve: I've given a keycode to someone and they fucked up - now it's my responsibilty to come to the meeting. I'm just going to revoke his key, before anyone else does. You don't need to go to the meeting, you just need to kill him before someone kills you.

RAYC: should be a working group for this. there are a lot of good points and constructive dialog.

James: how can we find out what the RFID ppl want, how can we talk to them about this?

Torrie: There is a slack channel: The Security Working Group, talk to Henner Casey.

= Discussion Notes =
Torrie: Working on 3D printers working!

RAYC: Inspection is going to be the week after this. We are not done with the list of things that Neil recommended we do, crucial need to
pass inspection things. Sheet Rocking - Back stairs flooring - board with list of other things that need to be done. This is crunch time! We need more volunteer help. 36 hours left of work to do. We need to get this done! Anytime really does help.

James: What needs to be done this week and then the following week?
Torrie: Working on stairwell in back.

RAYC: Spoke to ppl about flooring, plans are more set. No construction experience required. Majority of work left is sheet rocking, mudding and patching - to pass the one-hour fire rule. Let's shoot for Thursday evening - critical mass at 6pm. Call for shopping list.

Torrie: Need to organize IndieGoGo and mail gifts out. We have yet to fulfill any of the perks. Stickers and evelopes need to be packed and mailed. We need a book of stamps (~100). There is a list of the people, their addresses, and their perks to be mailed out. We need about 9 more hacker suvieners. T-shirts need to be packed and mails. Need to 3D print Empor Norton crowns.

RAYC: I will work with others to organize and stay in sync with IndieGoGo donors. Thank you letter could be improved.

Kevin: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Pod: when you have big tasks, we should make a public posting, a shout out for people to come over and help.

Torrie: Saturday at noon.

RAYC: For IndieGoGo, have a list of what we are doing: we need 77 keys

James: Will look at list of things to do.

Meeting Ajounred.

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Meeting 2014 09 02

2014-09-03T08:06:08Z

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2014-09-03T08:06:08Z

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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 324th Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: Jade; Moderator: Kevin.

= Attendance =

'''J.''': Moved from LA five months ago, found Noisebridge a month later and has been participating since.

'''Jean Jaques''': Has been participating at Noisebridge for 3 years - alternative energy solar panels, takes out trash and builds walls

'''Greg''': from Maine, 1st time, part of PlayNexus, designer, looking for interesting things to get looped into

'''Scotty''': been around for a couple years, more now - hacking on drywall, and greeter committee stuff

'''AndyMC''' aka signal: likes blinky things, Machine Learning

'''Henner''': working on RFID - software by day, hardware by night

'''Dana''': back in SF, beaglebone black hacking

'''Pavol''': RFID with Henner

'''Nathan''': tracel by gas, PlayNexus - free energy devices - Web software

'''Monad''': thinker

'''Casey''': Has been participating at Noisebridge since July 2010, working on the network, likes gpg

'''Mike''': came with Monad, former member, works on problems with the junk at Noisebridge. Noisebridge faces failure attempting to make everyone happy all the time.

'''Dan''': programmer and artist

'''Jade''': Does python and NeuroHacking

'''RAYC''': Hi, I'm RAYC.

'''Naomi''': Has been participating at Noisebridge since 2009, shit disturber

'''Kevin''': Does NeuroHacking - looking at inter-cranial data to predict seizures

'''Torrie''': transient drifter who does C++ sometimes

'''Emerson''': working on compsci degree at CCSF

= [[ Membership Binder ]] =
What is membership?

'''Naomi''': Active member of the community, feel open and engaged to express your thoughts, people are encouraged to hang around for 6 months then apply - wait 4 weeks. Sole Privilege - participate in consensus, block by raising a principled objection.

'''Monad''': Only members can be here 24 hours a day

==Applicants==

'''Daniel Lewis''': 4th+ week, no sponsors

'''Tristan Mosley''': 4th+ week, no sponsors

= Financial Report =

* Unknown

* The lights are on

* See last weeks report

= Consensus items =

What is consensus?

'''Mike''': Consensus process is working out issues with each other until we reach a unified agreement

'''Kevin''': must be discussed for 2 weeks

== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed
! Proposed By
! Informal Title
! Summary and pull request.
! Author of this Record
|-
| 2014-08-05
| [[User:Tdfischer|Torrie]]
| Reciprocal Bans With Sudo Room
| If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is not welcome at Noisebridge unless explicitly consensed upon by the community.
| [[User:Pemulis|John Shutt]]
|-
|}

'''Monad''': Does this include HayHackers?

''null'': This consensus item pertains to Sudo Room and Noisebridge.

'''AndyMC''': Last week sentiment was that we need to define the default cases, do we default, or do we reach a consensus and they are banned, guilty unless proven innocent

'''Kevin''': Shouldn’t go through consensus, why?

'''Dan''': revise add: or other community working group community process

'''Naomi''': *concern*

'''AndyMC''': Gathering of the hackerspaces soon, hosted at Omni

'''Dan''': unless “appropriate community review”

'''Torrie''': explicitly "welcomed back" by the community

'''Henner''': concern - too unofficial, besides consensus

'''Dan''': it is our culture that there is some wiggle room and grey area, if no one enforces them make better rules

'''AndyMC''': less about trying to be very strict about the rule, need to gain acceptance from the community, in some cases there’s redemption and sticking the rules can be a problem

'''Naomi''': rules are easy, community is not - there’s opportunity for people to be sponsored in. Rules are not enforceable and become exploitable

'''Monad''': RAYC was asked to abstain from being here, this hasn’t been enforced so RAYC comes

'''Kevin''': we like the wording change ''If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is not welcome at Noisebridge unless explicitly welcomed back by the community.''

=Events and Announcements=

'''Torrie''': The BACHs 2014.ba.chrp.org - register the event Sept. 11th and 12th - bay area consortium of hacker spaces

'''Kevin''': hosting cinema hacking - citizen keynote - 3rd friday at Noisebridge. talk to Podavski if interested

=Discussion Notes=

'''Mike''': what Noisebridge receives as donations, we should always accept money, but screen other things

'''Monad''': Moving shop to church

'''RAYC''': there’s work to be done at Noisebridge

'''Monad''': shop is 24’ church is 27’ stairs make space unusable, projections will be clearer in the space of the shop

'''Henner''': needs a wall

'''Torrie''': stairwell, knock down banister and build floor

'''AndyMC''': the floors in the dirty shop is nice and dirty and the floors in the church are nice and clear, might be ruined

'''RAYC''': debris in shop should stay in the back. the noise will be better in contained in back

'''Dana''': do we get noise complaints? would that effect our neighbors

'''RAYC''': no

'''Jean Jaques''': city inspection -major concern, electrical wiring. not in favor in moving it. Want more space for classes, not shop.

'''Monad''': the wiring work needs to be done in both rooms, the shop needs ventilation and exhaust. Shop is not that much bigger.

'''Torrie''': sanders - they redid floors knowing it will be ruined. it’s okay.

'''Monad''': Jared’s plan was to have noise in back

'''Scotty''': perspective - observed we’re running out of steam and need to drive towards completion, want to finish what they started before the shop swap

'''Monad''': putting the projector up, walls don’t need to be put up before inspection

'''Torrie''': likes the plan, but wants to get inspection done with first. wants to write down what needs to be done in the shop swap

'''RAYC''': move everything now - less work for the future

'''Casey''': the shop we have is better than the best shop in the world

'''Mike addresses junk'''

'''Mike''': the main problem is the definition of Noisebridge itself. what is Noisebridge mostly used for. Most people use it for classes, not about fixing broken TVs. Not a used car lot.

'''Henner''': agrees, Noisebridge has a broken window problem, collects more junk. Pre-screen stuff. Someone should be responsible for accepting things. take things apart and but it right bins. at that point things are more useful. Default reject. ’take apart wednesday’

'''Mike''': everything should be accounted for, don’t want to deal with parts no-one uses.

'''Scotty''': disagrees with Mike: came to circuit hacking monday - worked with junk. Likes it’s like a junk shop. hate to loose that atmosphere. agree’s we should be curating it. Wants Liberal acceptance policy and Radical getting rid of stuff

'''RAYC''': Noisebridge isn’t predominantly classes. problem we’re having is infrastructure problem. need a way to process the donations and have a more organized parts storage. Create of flow chart to ensure timely removal and have a procurement area. London Hack space has a system, green, yellow, red. two weeks for each part. and we should have a reserve area

'''AndyMC''': green tag yellow tag red tag system, parking ticket parking permit system. at Pumping Stations 1. tidy spaces

'''Torrie''': tried a variant and was ridiculously successful.

'''Jean Jaques''': should have a donations working group - screen donations. need to know out criteria (list or guideline system), what people want. and what to consider. and likes dating idea. Hacker Alley Librarian System

'''Monad''': going to have it fine, but keep it under control. needs limits

'''Dana''': agree with working group and dating system. Hacker alley is a great place. want to manage it

'''Naomi''': new channel on slack

'''AndyMC''': pitch for slack

'''Mike''': should have a Free Table

'''RAYC''': wants a photo-booth for incoming donations

'''RAYC''': there’s work to be done. Noisebridge is in a good state - a better state than before still a lot of work to do. Concerned of influx of people coming in right now with electrician tools laying around. When will electricians be done. Busy work - sheet rocking, sanding, painting, and filtering through pile in space

'''Naomi''': what’s here is what’s supposed to be here

'''Kevin''': if we set up shop and hack-shelves, and library shelving and electronics bench - that will be a leap forward, and Noisebridge will be up and running.

'''AndyMC''': asks for electric update

'''Jean Jaques''': Electrician says everything is pretty much done, just need wiring by the elevator and front door. Everything is done. Putting off overhead lighting - turned out to be not UL approved, will make better lighting after inspection. Should finish pantry next couple days. Water heater is a can of worms - plumber will come in for advice - take out water heater, draining issues. get smaller one. Wiring is done besides minor areas

'''Scotty''': Library area - finish mudding and painting it. bookcases - where are they?

'''Naomi''': Q: listing of minor things?

'''Jean Jaques''': not clear, ask Neil, the electrician. need exit light.

'''Naomi''': plan to sort three major areas - nothings blocking us

'''Scotty''': what about that wall?

'''Torrie''': AV wall, will be fixed

'''RAYC''': started Noisebridge spaceship design theme group. Library shelves are 2x4’s against this wall

'''Andy''': ''*popped off stack*''

'''Casey''': where is the box of doorknobs!? needs a spare gate lock

'''Henner''': has a spare

''Fin.''
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Meeting Notes 2014 09 02

2014-09-03T08:03:04Z

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