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		<title>User:Elleko</title>
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		<updated>2019-05-03T14:43:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Bullitt D. Bourbon, her majesty the McQueen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Will never return to the space because FUCK CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
wow, look people wrote a sililoquy on the user page. My ass hurts from the puppetting hand of IP 51.whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;I often find myself at odds with &#039;normalcy.&#039; In a world filled with people hungry for conformity, I pride myself on saying that I firmly retain a true sense of identity and individuality, one that succeeds both ego driven certitude as well as brash naivety. While physique and image are undeniably vital attributes in regards to physical glamor, they are mistakenly considered as the sole requisites to one&#039;s overall beauty. I have spent my youth and young adulthood avidly proclaiming that intellect, attitude and presence just as prominently factor into the equation as well. These particular virtues, which the mainstream&#039;s comprehension of &amp;quot;beauty&amp;quot; subsequently lacks, are what attracts me to entities like Noisebridge. Why anyone would pigeon hole their perspectives to the covers of Vouge and Cosmopolitan is beyond me. There are so many other levels of gorgeousness and gracefulness, to strip that down to an Abercrombie &amp;amp; Fitch advertisement or a Victoria Secret commercial would be the same as denying humanity itself.&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
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		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=New_space_meeting_2017_11_11&amp;diff=61624</id>
		<title>New space meeting 2017 11 11</title>
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		<updated>2017-11-13T03:06:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: Bullitt is more coherent than that, maybe note taker needs 2 up their listening skills&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;## https://pad.riseup.net/p/nb-new-space ##&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### Overview&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lease ends on August 30th 2018.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last renewed in 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Used to be owned by the parents and now it&#039;s in a trust.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Incidents that are of concern to the owners have occured in the past before our last lease was renewed in 2014. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Next Meeting is:  Sat. November 18th at 6 PM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### Action Items&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. We need dates for working on our cotingencies&lt;br /&gt;
- Worst case is that we storage unit Noisebridge - it would take a long time.&lt;br /&gt;
- If a new space appeared, how would we decide that it&#039;s good and jump on it?&lt;br /&gt;
- meet requirements we mentioned&lt;br /&gt;
- big-c consensus&lt;br /&gt;
2. Patrick: also a big-c consensus item to set aside up to $5000 holding fee so we have flexibility up to that amount&lt;br /&gt;
3. Another New Space Meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
- Next week! Start with the highest frequency possible: Sat. November 18th at 6 PM&lt;br /&gt;
4. Darryl: Maintain the list of potential spaces - both rental and purchase&lt;br /&gt;
5. Eagerly fundraise because it is the end of the tax year!!!&lt;br /&gt;
- Victoria: If you send me people I will hunt them down and ask for money&lt;br /&gt;
- J to help Victoria&lt;br /&gt;
- Victoria to send out a letter on the mailing lists: announce &amp;amp; discuss&lt;br /&gt;
- Do we know a list of big donors we can contact again?  Google - John Shutt.&lt;br /&gt;
- Darryl: Apple might be interested.  Darryl will ask the person to contact Victoria.&lt;br /&gt;
- Kevin: We should find people trying to give money out at big firms.&lt;br /&gt;
6. Patrick to make #new-space-feed channel to feed craigslist posts into slack&lt;br /&gt;
- some way of coordinating this with darryl&lt;br /&gt;
7. Tweet that we are looking at the possibility of moving&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#### Actions: Staying Here &amp;amp; Solving Current City Planning Issues&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Get a lawyer&lt;br /&gt;
2. then: talk to Brian&lt;br /&gt;
3. devMission as ally http://devmission.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#### Actions: Moving Noisebridge&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Ben to touch base with Monkeybrains regarding available spaces- they know the lay of the land&lt;br /&gt;
2. Lets ask orgs with money to give us a bunch to buy a space...&lt;br /&gt;
-  City money or corporate money - no masters, no special strings attached&lt;br /&gt;
3. Blake - Will try to find out who donated $1 million to omni commons&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
## Space requirements&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is for buying AND for renting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blake: When it comes to special deals: no masters, no strings attached - same concept as accepting donations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blake: this same list exists for before we got 2169 Mission. What interesting stuff is on there? https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Moving/2169_Mission#Lease_signed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Darryl: We should be looking at one of the Piers because the port can do whatever it wants.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Aleks: Ventilations requirements? Windows requirements?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ben: Internet access - we need Monkeybrains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
0. Walkable from BART&lt;br /&gt;
1. At least 5,500 sq. ft.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Elevator access or ground floor&lt;br /&gt;
3. 100AMP supply&lt;br /&gt;
1. We don&#039;t currently have 3-phase power or the need for it.&lt;br /&gt;
4. We need complementary zoning&lt;br /&gt;
1. We need to be a public facility in that space, woodshop, metalshop, assembly events&lt;br /&gt;
2. It could take months to get a &amp;quot;public use permit&amp;quot; at a new space&lt;br /&gt;
3. Ideally &amp;quot;public facility&amp;quot; is already permitted in whatever new location&lt;br /&gt;
4. Look closer at our &amp;quot;public use&amp;quot; boundaries and shrink our use to fit... are we already private? people need a key or a friend.&lt;br /&gt;
5. Neighbors who are not concerned about noise&lt;br /&gt;
6. Chill/checked-out landlord&lt;br /&gt;
7. High ceilings - 12 ft currently.&lt;br /&gt;
8. Within the city/county of SF.&lt;br /&gt;
9. Noisebarge&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### Timeline&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
9 months from November 1st 2017. The lease ends August 31st 2018 at 5 PM.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- They are open to the possibility a few months extension if we need it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Goal: &lt;br /&gt;
Layout options&lt;br /&gt;
Discuss how we&#039;ll work toward these options.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Options:&lt;br /&gt;
0. Viking funeral for current space on September 1st 2018&lt;br /&gt;
1. Figure out we can make the landlord okay with renewing the lease. Ideally long term.&lt;br /&gt;
- ask oh happy day what their rent is&lt;br /&gt;
- contributing to fixing the lobby area &lt;br /&gt;
2. Find another space in the city.&lt;br /&gt;
3. Buy the building?&lt;br /&gt;
4. Get a San Francisco lawyer&lt;br /&gt;
- Lee&#039;s lawyer contacts - Lee&lt;br /&gt;
- National Council of Non-Profits - (j)&lt;br /&gt;
- Victoria might have a lawyer also - Victoria&lt;br /&gt;
- I&#039;ll ask around for a tennant lawyer - Blake&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- figure out &amp;quot;conditional use authorization&amp;quot; stuff and advantages&lt;br /&gt;
- don&#039;t get evicted for something stupid&lt;br /&gt;
5. Prop X - we have NO idea&lt;br /&gt;
- this requires the lawyer&lt;br /&gt;
6. few month extension to lease (not a long term option)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### Current City Issues&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We cannot meet with the landlord for this until we consult a lawyer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some department has classified us as a space for public use.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What elements make this up in the planning code? Why are we one? Again, we need a *lawyer*.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- We need to apply for and receive a &amp;quot;conditional use authorization&amp;quot; regardless of the future.&lt;br /&gt;
- OR we convince them that we are not a public facility.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bullitt: l was here on Tuesday around 6 pm and let the guy in. David Brosky from CPC (Capital Planning Committee) did not say he was representing the City until after l gave him a tour. He had read about the space but had never been here. He suggested we apply for a change of use as a Public Facility. He wanted to serve the paperwork, l directed him to Darryl. He asked for a contact so l gave him my email. We are not currently classified as a public facility. He e-mailed me and l asked him for literature about legal implications and responsibilities of Public Facilities; he has not responded yet. l couldn&#039;t find anything on SFGOV.org but did find something in Washington State describing their criteria for a public facility that is privately owned. Not the definition from San Francisco. His e-mail (david.brosky@sfgov.org) is associated with the complaint regarding the laser cutter on the assessor&#039;s website. His contact info is on the paper served to Noisebridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### Options if we do not stay at 2169 Mission&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Rent something else&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Lots of questions&lt;br /&gt;
- Bigger space?&lt;br /&gt;
- worst case: bleed ourselves dry and get bitter...&lt;br /&gt;
- Similar Space?&lt;br /&gt;
- at LEAST 5500 square feet&lt;br /&gt;
- What are our strict requirements?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Redstone Building&lt;br /&gt;
- Unknown, mitch meeting with someone on the 17th?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Buy a building&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Buy: Omni Commons Model?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Buy: On our own&lt;br /&gt;
- City Grants&lt;br /&gt;
- We have a huge wealth of social capital that we don&#039;t even have quantified&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Need to learn more about Fundraising for Non-Profits. Go to foundationcenter.org&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
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		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=User:Elleko&amp;diff=52406</id>
		<title>User:Elleko</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-21T03:02:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: Created page with &amp;quot;Bullitt Bourbon - the McQueen&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Bullitt Bourbon - the McQueen&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=L_am_an_example_of_someone_excluded_from_your_facilities.&amp;diff=20288</id>
		<title>L am an example of someone excluded from your facilities.</title>
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		<updated>2011-08-22T00:07:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: this is the final edit&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;l am an occasional user of ur facilities. In the past, l have considered membership, participating more and contributing to your space, but repeated negative experiences, and the refusal of the members of the facilities to take action have made me stop using your facilities all together. l am writing a page as a gesture of good faith because l can see that said problems can be addressed, however, l will not be in the facilities physically, as l experience emotional and physical threat repeatedly from people who frequent the facilities whenever l am there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
l began using your facilities about a year ago, c May 2010 until about September of the same year. l used mainly your kitchen facilities and wifi. l hold certain views about how to improve the overall health and well-being of the general populace, which l express through direct action. Explaining what these views are gives background to the conflict that ensued. l encourage people to take food that is fit for consumption when they do not have the monetary means to purchase such items. This includes becoming informed about food safety, quality of food products and how it affects its safety in consumption. it&#039;s not so much learning about different chemical additives, etc. and becoming a scholar of such things. l promote practices that maintain health for the individual such as avoiding additive-laden goods, eating food that has not been tainted; on the other side of the coin, learning about food variety, and about what may not seem appetizing but are safe to consume and nutritious, such as certain insects. A war of words is not what l am looking for in the situation, it is making sure people are not only fed, but properly fed and nourished.&lt;br /&gt;
l feel that the proper nourishment of the populace is more important than the value of camaraderie formed through dumpster diving with others, and certainly more important than the economic barriers, which is set up in many cases by vendors to support rigid business practices: warehouses of food are destroyed in storage in order to fix prices in stores everyday. As well, problems plague existing distribution infractructure for those who do not have the economic means to purchase adequate food (as exemplified by what this article describes  http://boingboing.net/2007/03/23/food-bank-dump-in-th.html&lt;br /&gt;
,) not to mention the humiliation the general social environment imposes upon those receiving such aid, corruption within the infrastructure which takes from the disenfranchised exactly because they are without support. l will not explain this in further detail as this is only meant to give background to the conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
The actions l take to express these views include taking food from shelves in stores, preparing it, and distributing it. It is doing this in your facilities that prompted a member to make it difficult for me to be in the space. This presents a paradox because it is the availability of your infrastructure that made me try the space out in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This member made frequent use of the kitchen facilities around this time. He also lived in the space. A lot of activities which are frowned upon by the Law take place in Noisebridge, for which the facilities are not responsible. However, this member felt the need to tell me that l should not use the kitchen facilities because my activities were illegal; he also brought the matter to a member meeting, which l did attend even though l was never a member. Debates ensued over the matter, but that all meant very little to me because the whole time it became harder and harder for me to use the facilities, and l was also stigmatized for taking actions based on my views, not to meant ion being told what to do by someone in the space.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The members did nothing about the above, which l thought was integral to the vision of the space. If someone told any other member what to do, l believe that actions would have been taken. l think &#039;&#039;&#039;Kurt Vonnegut&#039;&#039;&#039; put it quite well in &#039;&#039;Slaughter House Five&#039;&#039;, that the bible illustrated the aggressors upon Jesus experienced the wrath of God because Jesus is the son of God, which taught people that it is the well-connected whom they should fear. Instead, if the bible illustrated Jesus as a complete and total loser right up to the moment when he was about to die from the mistreatment visited upon him, suddenly the skies opened up and &#039;God&#039; tells everyone that he is adopting this loser on the spot, and everyone who has ever attacked him shall suffer the wrath of this being, then a lot of conflict in the Western world could have been prevented.&lt;br /&gt;
l was not stupid enough to stick around for attacks in 2010, (nor it is a good use of time to participate in lengthy discussion when l was not even a member,) but essentially, to the people present at this member meeting as well as ensuing IRC discussions, l am a poorly-connected loser. But that&#039;s not true either, it&#039;s just that people who thought what was happening to me was wrong weighed peace within their community over fighting over ideology, and hence, l don&#039;t cook in your facilities. This actually occurred. What the other person did after that is outside of the scope of my argument because l did not and do not give a shit what he does. It boiled down to me not being able to use your facilities and no one did anything about it. Word mincing does not obliterate this fact, attack upon my integrity and my work does not obliterate this fact; rather, it compromises the integrity of your organization.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
In 2010, aside from the aforementioned experience, l also encountered other people in the Noisebridge facilities who disrupted me from working. l want to point out that during my visits in August of 2011, these men were still around the facilities and often slept there. That&#039;s a full year of &#039;residence&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
One experience is while making a video pitch for venture funding, a man repeatedly entered the frame, and eventually stopped me from my work. This is a person whom l saw on the premises on multiple occasions and to whom l was polite and humored with conversation. Even before this incident, this man displayed a demanding attitude toward my attention. Another man who was demanding of my attention after l humored him with conversation in 2010 was also still present at Noisebridge during my visits in August 2011. l stayed clear of these men for the most part, except on the morning of 08/14/2011, the man who kept me from working on my video made it impossible for me to be at the facility by picking a verbal fight with me. l avoided the conflict by extricating out of the conversation and leaving the facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
They have taken it upon themselves to wake people up from sleeping or telling others they &#039;must hack or leave&#039;. There&#039;s no greater attractor for hate than falling asleep in public in San Francisco, and at your facilities it is no exception. There&#039;s not better way to stay away from scrutiny than initiating scrutiny themselves. Again, l want to point out that these 2 men have been spending nights at your facilities for about 1 year at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
lt would be nice if the place was full of cool people late into the night who are provided with a space to connect with each other, but with this type of weirdness it will never happen.  Having a 24 hour facility available is valuable to the community in general. l&#039;m no stranger to polyphasic sleep and working around the clock. The type of witch-hunting mob manipulation being generated at your facility makes my blood boil, not to mention how it promotes and protects the act of pretending to work while simultaneously prevents real work from being done. It is a reflection of the plague that grinds this country&#039;s economy to a halt, and the &#039;innovators&#039; do nothing!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
l imagine that the reason people do not call abusive use of the facilities out because it&#039;s perceived to be a can of worms: if one person&#039;s behavior can be construed as abuse, then everyone can be accused for whatever reason. l don&#039;t think this is true, you can point out blatant abuse and stop it in its tracks. But these men that made the environment a hazard for me, and who have lived at your facilities for a year are still there. This tells me l am not imagining that people defend the exclusive rights of those who have personally reached them (whom they&#039;ve spoken to,) justifying their actions, or they are simply too weak to stand up to bullshit, pretend it&#039;s not there and give up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All it takes is for me to come in and the illusion is gone, or let me guess, it&#039;s still easier to just pretend you don&#039;t get what l&#039;m talking about and let them hang out rather than to tell them they are the problem or get them some help. Shutting the place down to everyone in the face of abuse means that the abuse has compromised the very purpose of the institution: so it could be used. If the place is a social experiment, the first proposed solution has proven itself to be ineffective: so change to another one, duh.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And then you might say: Who is this person to say anything. I don&#039;t know her; her experience isn&#039;t anyone else&#039;s experience. You might even expand that and venture to guess that other people are probably not excluded from the facilities, and even if they are, it isn&#039;t you yet so who gives a shit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone chooses from whom s/he draws sustenance. Every time l come in, l see that people&#039;s slummer/ garbage-can-inspired imagination point them toward subsistent penny-pinching, pushing out other influences. You have to get rid of what your don&#039;t want to get what you do want. Whenever l&#039;ve made contributions in the past, l didn&#039;t say a word, not so with people who are doing it for brownie points so they can abuse the place. This facility used to be a sweat shop, at least back then the people in the facilities were getting ripped off and not making peons running on intellectual pride out of themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
l don&#039;t have a problem with anyone, l choose to stay away. l do this not because l&#039;m scared, it&#039;s that l respect even that mentality and decisions that were made along those lines of thought. Reader, if you were a target, would you have that kind of courtesy? The last thing l&#039;d like to point out is that l decided not to be a member because l am pushed out by behavior that l thought was antithetical to the spirit of your establishment, yet, the behaviour is allowed. l&#039;ve met great people at your spot as well, but they don&#039;t live at the place, and l really didn&#039;t see them around in the 2 weeks l&#039;ve used the facilities in 2011. l have no attachment your facilities, l am just talking about my experience as feedback to the facility. l see the problems and l would really be peeved if the place gets pwned/ shuts down and people simply pretend (in hindsight) that they didn&#039;t see the problems as they arose and tell others that &#039;no one knew what the problems were nor could they have known what those problems were.&#039; The integrity of your facility is compromised physically and spiritually, l don&#039;t understand why all the people who say they love the place do nothing. The first step to solving problems is to acknowledge them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
peace&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Elle Ko&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(aka Bullitt Bourbon)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=L_am_an_example_of_someone_excluded_from_your_facilities.&amp;diff=20286</id>
		<title>L am an example of someone excluded from your facilities.</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=L_am_an_example_of_someone_excluded_from_your_facilities.&amp;diff=20286"/>
		<updated>2011-08-21T23:08:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;l am an occasional user of ur facilities. In the past, l have considered membership, participating more and contributing to your space, but repeated negative experiences, and the refusal of the members of the facilities to take action have made me stop using your facilities all together. l am writing a page as a gesture of good faith because l can see that said problems can be addressed, however, l will not be in the facilities physically, as l experience emotional and physical threat repeatedly from people who frequent the facilities whenever l am there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
l began using your facilities about a year ago, c May 2010 until about September of the same year. l used mainly your kitchen facilities and wifi. l hold certain views about how to improve the overall health and well-being of the general populace, which l express through direct action. Explaining what these views are gives background to the conflict that ensued. l encourage people to take food that is fit for consumption when they do not have the monetary means to purchase such items. This includes becoming informed about food safety, quality of food products and how it affects its safety in consumption. it&#039;s not so much learning about different chemical additives, etc. and becoming a scholar of such things. l promote practices that maintain health for the individual such as avoiding additive-laden goods, eating food that has not been tainted; on the other side of the coin, learning about food variety, and about what may not seem appetizing but are safe to consume and nutritious, such as certain insects. A war of words is not what l am looking for in the situation, it is making sure people are not only fed, but properly fed and nourished.&lt;br /&gt;
l feel that the proper nourishment of the populace is more important than the value of camaraderie formed through dumpster diving with others, and certainly more important than the economic barriers, which is set up in many cases by vendors to support rigid business practices: warehouses of food are destroyed in storage in order to fix prices in stores everyday. As well, problems plague existing distribution infractructure for those who do not have the economic means to purchase adequate food (as exemplified by what this article describes  http://boingboing.net/2007/03/23/food-bank-dump-in-th.html&lt;br /&gt;
,) not to mention the humiliation the general social environment imposes upon those receiving such aid, corruption within the infrastructure which takes from the disenfranchised exactly because they are without support. l will not explain this in further detail as this is only meant to give background to the conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
The actions l take to express these views include taking food from shelves in stores, preparing it, and distributing it. It is doing this in your facilities that prompted a member to make it difficult for me to be in the space. This presents a paradox because it is the availability of your infrastructure that made me try the space out in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This member made frequent use of the kitchen facilities around this time. He also lived in the space. A lot of activities which are frowned upon by the Law take place in Noisebridge, for which the facilities are not responsible. However, this member felt the need to tell me that l should not use the kitchen facilities because my activities were illegal; he also brought the matter to a member meeting, which l did attend even though l was never a member. Debates ensued over the matter, but that all meant very little to me because the whole time it became harder and harder for me to use the facilities, and l was also stigmatized for taking actions based on my views, not to meant ion being told what to do by someone in the space.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The members did nothing about the above, which l thought was integral to the vision of the space. If someone told any other member what to do, l believe that actions would have been taken. l think &#039;&#039;&#039;Kurt Vonnegut&#039;&#039;&#039; put it quite well in &#039;&#039;Slaughter House Five&#039;&#039;, that the bible illustrated the aggressors upon Jesus experienced the wrath of God because Jesus is the son of God, which taught people that it is the well-connected whom they should fear. Instead, if the bible illustrated Jesus as a complete and total loser right up to the moment when he was about to die from the mistreatment visited upon him, suddenly the skies opened up and &#039;God&#039; tells everyone that he is adopting this loser on the spot, and everyone who has ever attacked him shall suffer the wrath of this being, then a lot of conflict in the Western world could have been prevented.&lt;br /&gt;
l was not stupid enough to stick around for attacks in 2010, (nor it is a good use of time to participate in lengthy discussion when l was not even a member,) but essentially, to the people present at this member meeting as well as ensuing IRC discussions, l am a poorly-connected loser. But that&#039;s not true either, it&#039;s just that people who thought what was happening to me was wrong weighed peace within their community over fighting over ideology, and hence, l don&#039;t cook in your facilities. This actually occurred. What the other person did after that is outside of the scope of my argument because l did not and do not give a shit what he does. It boiled down to me not being able to use your facilities and no one did anything about it. Word mincing does not obliterate this fact, attack upon my integrity and my work does not obliterate this fact; rather, it compromises the integrity of your organization.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
---&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2010, aside from the aforementioned experience, l also encountered other people in the Noisebridge facilities who disrupted me from working. l want to point out that during my visits in August of 2011, these men were still around the facilities and often slept there. That&#039;s a full year of &#039;residence&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
One experience is while making a video pitch for venture funding, a man repeatedly entered the frame, and eventually stopped me from my work. This is a person whom l saw on the premises on multiple occasions and to whom l was polite and humored with conversation. Even before this incident, this man displayed a demanding attitude toward my attention. Another man who was demanding of my attention after l humored him with conversation in 2010 was also still present at Noisebridge during my visits in August 2011. l stayed clear of these men for the most part, except on the morning of 08/14/2011, the man who kept me from working on my video made it impossible for me to be at the facility by picking a verbal fight with me. l avoided the conflict by extricating out of the conversation and leaving the facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
Again, l want to point out that these 2 men have been spending nights at your facilities for about 1 year at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
---&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having a 24 hour facility available is valuable to the community in general. l imagine that the reason people do not call abusive use of the facilities out because it&#039;s perceived to be a can of worms: if one person&#039;s behavior can be construed as abuse, then everyone can be accused for whatever reason. l don&#039;t think this is true, you can point out blatant abuse and stop it in its tracks. But these men that made the environment a hazard for me, and who have lived at your facilities for a year are still there. This tells me l am not imagining that people defend the exclusive rights of those who have personally reached them (whom they&#039;ve spoken to,) justifying their actions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You choose from whom your draw your sustenance. Every time l come in, l see that people&#039;s slummer/ garbage-can-inspired imagination point them toward subsistent penny-pinching, pushing out other influences. l don&#039;t have a problem with anyone, l stay away not because l am scared, but because l respect even that kind of thinking. l decided not to be a member and not to donate stuff to your facilities because&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Elle Ko&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=L_am_an_example_of_someone_excluded_from_your_facilities.&amp;diff=20251</id>
		<title>L am an example of someone excluded from your facilities.</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=L_am_an_example_of_someone_excluded_from_your_facilities.&amp;diff=20251"/>
		<updated>2011-08-17T04:01:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: Created page with &amp;#039;l am an occasional user of ur facilities. In the past, l have considered membership, participating more and contributing to your space, but repeated negative experiences, and the…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;l am an occasional user of ur facilities. In the past, l have considered membership, participating more and contributing to your space, but repeated negative experiences, and the refusal of the members of the facilities to take action have made me stop using your facilities all together. l am writing a page as a gesture of good faith because l can see that said problems can be addressed, however, l will not be in the facilities physically, as l experience emotional and physical threat repeatedly from people who frequent the facilities whenever l am there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
l began using your facilities about a year ago, c May 2010 until about September of the same year. l used mainly your kitchen facilities and wifi. l hold certain views about how to improve the overall health and well-being of the general populace, which l express through direct action. Explaining what these views are gives background to the conflict that ensued. l encourage people to take food that is fit for consumption when they do not have the monetary means to purchase such items. This includes becoming informed about food safety, quality of food products and how it affects its safety in consumption. it&#039;s not so much learning about different chemical additives, etc. and becoming a scholar of such things. l promote practices that maintain health for the individual such as avoiding additive-laden goods, eating food that has not been tainted; on the other side of the coin, learning about food variety, and about what may not seem appetizing but are safe to consume and nutritious, such as certain insects. A war of words is not what l am looking for in the situation, it is making sure people are not only fed, but properly fed and nourished.&lt;br /&gt;
l feel that the proper nourishment of the populace is more important than the value of camaraderie formed through dumpster diving with others, and certainly more important than the economic barriers, which is set up in many cases by vendors to support rigid business practices: warehouses of food are destroyed in storage in order to fix prices in stores everyday. As well, problems plague existing distribution infractructure for those who do not have the economic means to purchase adequate food (as exemplified by what this article describes  http://boingboing.net/2007/03/23/food-bank-dump-in-th.html&lt;br /&gt;
,) not to mention the humiliation the general social environment imposes upon those receiving such aid, corruption within the infrastructure which takes from the disenfranchised exactly because they are without support. l will not explain this in further detail as this is only meant to give background to the conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
The actions l take to express these views include taking food from shelves in stores, preparing it, and distributing it. It is doing this in your facilities that prompted a member to make it difficult for me to be in the space. This presents a paradox because it is the availability of your infrastructure that made me try the space out in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This member made frequent use of the kitchen facilities around this time. He also lived in the space. A lot of activities which are frowned upon by the Law take place in Noisebridge, for which the facilities are not responsible. However, this member felt the need to tell me that l should not use the kitchen facilities because my activities were illegal; he also brought the matter to a member meeting, which l did attend even though l was never a member. Debates ensued over the matter, but that all meant very little to me because the whole time it became harder and harder for me to use the facilities, and l was also stigmatized for taking actions based on my views, not to meant ion being told what to do by someone in the space.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The members did nothing about the above, which l thought was integral to the vision of the space. If someone told any other member what to do, l believe that actions would have been taken. l think Kurt Vonnegut put it quite well in Slaughter House Five: the bible illustrated that the aggressors upon Jesus experienced the wrath of God because Jesus is the son of God, but what would have prevented a lot of conflict is if the bible illustrated Jesus as a complete and total loser right up to the moment when he was about to die on the cross, then the skies open up and &#039;God&#039; tells everyone he is adopting this loser on the spot and everyone who has ever attacked him shall suffer the wrath of this being. l&#039;m not stupid enough to stick around for attack, (nor it is a good use of time to participate in lengthy discussion when l was not even a member,) but essentially, to the people present at this member meeting as well as ensuing IRC discussions, l am a poorly-connected loser. But that&#039;s not true either, it&#039;s just that people who thought what was happening to me was wrong weighed peace within their community over fighting over ideology, and hence, l don&#039;t cook in your facilities. This actually occurred. What the other person did after that is outside of the scope of my argument because l don&#039;t give a shit what he does. It boiled down to me not being able to use your facilities and no one did anything about it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(more to come about this year&#039;s experience)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Elle Ko&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=Talk:Noisebridge_Vision&amp;diff=20243</id>
		<title>Talk:Noisebridge Vision</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=Talk:Noisebridge_Vision&amp;diff=20243"/>
		<updated>2011-08-17T03:10:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;l don&#039;t mean to be all intrusive by adding a prominent line at the top of this page, but your facility is so continually hazardous for me to use, and that people involved with the space take no direct action about the specific causes of those hazards, l can&#039;t help but conclude that [[l am an example of someone excluded from your facilities.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisebridge is governed by its members and its mission is to support members&#039; activities.&lt;br /&gt;
* We are an all inclusive group.&lt;br /&gt;
* Decisions are made at membership meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
* Responsibilities can be delegated.&lt;br /&gt;
* Membership meetings have the final say.&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus Consensus] is preferred over majority decisions. Every one needs to be heard before a decision can be taken.&lt;br /&gt;
* Our actions in the space and with members are Civic, Courteous and Lawful.&lt;br /&gt;
* This is not a space for commercial ventures, there are many good alternatives for that (add links).&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisebridge is not allied with any sect, denomination, political entity, organisation or institution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Membership expectations ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* members should contribute not only monetarily but &#039;in-kind&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* we will be flexible in monetary contributions for members with different levels of income and/or expenses&lt;br /&gt;
* there is no Management responsible for (things such as) taking out the trash and buying juice and resistors and pens; each member is expected to do things that they see need doing&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;sudo leadership&#039;: there are no General leaders, only temporary ones in case of projects that really need one&lt;br /&gt;
* members are expected to be trustworthy&lt;br /&gt;
* members never represent The Community; they only speak for themselves (e.g. to the media)&lt;br /&gt;
* any member can bring guests any time&lt;br /&gt;
* new members must be sponsored by two current members&lt;br /&gt;
* nobody will live in the space (although occasional overnights are OK in case of missed BART and such)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Decision process ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* as noted elsewhere, consensus is the goal.  In case this fails we will have to fall back on majority voting.  We will know that consensus has failed when ... ?&lt;br /&gt;
* individuals are always responsible for their own decisions&lt;br /&gt;
* if you think it needs doing and it won&#039;t cause problems for anyone, then do it.  use your judgment on whether it requires a consensus process (a possible guideline is that things you or you and one other person can do probably don&#039;t require general discussion; things that require, say, 5 or more people or expenditures of over, say, $100, probably do)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From my perspective, NoiseBridge is a continuation of the hacker space I had in mind when I started the SFhackspace google group a few days ago.  So, I&#039;ll quote from some relevant parts of what I wrote there:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I was totally inspired by Chaos Camp in Berlin this summer (2007).  There were so many incredibly beautiful projects that people showed at the Camp, and many of them came out of hacker spaces that exist all over Germany and Austria (in big cities, but also in lots of small towns).  Since I&#039;ve been back from Berlin, I&#039;ve been talking to lots of people about starting a hacker space here.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wouldn&#039;t it be wonderful to have a space that is open to members 24/7, a place to work on projects both solo and collaborative, a place to support and be supported in your projects, easily accessible to mass transit, safe to get to night or day, a place with a kitchen and a shower, a place to hang out with other geeks? Excitement has been building to create such a space!  It turns out that there are several other people who have been independently thinking about starting a hacker space here.  There are probably lots of people that none of us know that are also thinking about this as well.  This all tells me that it is really is time for a hacker space here!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I uploaded a [http://sfhackspace.googlegroups.com/web/Hacker-Space-Design-Patterns.pdf document] that is from some Chaos folks.  It gives ideas about what has worked (and not) for them.  It is a good place to look to get some ideas, and is a good starting point for discussion.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last night (18-Nov-07), as I type, a group of us discussed some ideas that we were all jazzed about (as I remember it -- others please feel free to edit this):  a space where members pay between $50 and $100 per month (depending on the rent and any common fund we&#039;d like to build up); exploring the intersection of art and technology; diverse membership is cool! (both in types of people and in the types of geekiness members are into); no tolerance of intolerance, including no homophobia, racism, sexism; agreement that people will work interpersonal things out with each other (including not talking behind others&#039; backs); respect for others&#039; well being; there will be space for members to work on projects, and a common space for events, classes, art; members can store their projects in storage drawers/lockers/bins; the focus of the space is non-commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mitch.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Photography is directly related to art, chemistry and mathematics. Building new an unique processes and integrating technology is very much in line with our purpose. [[User:Ioerror|ioerror]] 14:02, 19 November 2007 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=Talk:Noisebridge_Vision&amp;diff=20242</id>
		<title>Talk:Noisebridge Vision</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://replica.wiki.extremist.software/index.php?title=Talk:Noisebridge_Vision&amp;diff=20242"/>
		<updated>2011-08-17T03:10:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elleko: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;l don&#039;t mean to be all intrusive by adding a prominent line at the top of this page, but your facility is so continually hazardous for me to use, and that people involved with the space take no direct action about the specific causes of those hazards, l can&#039;t help but conclude that [l am an example of someone excluded from your facilities.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisebridge is governed by its members and its mission is to support members&#039; activities.&lt;br /&gt;
* We are an all inclusive group.&lt;br /&gt;
* Decisions are made at membership meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
* Responsibilities can be delegated.&lt;br /&gt;
* Membership meetings have the final say.&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus Consensus] is preferred over majority decisions. Every one needs to be heard before a decision can be taken.&lt;br /&gt;
* Our actions in the space and with members are Civic, Courteous and Lawful.&lt;br /&gt;
* This is not a space for commercial ventures, there are many good alternatives for that (add links).&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisebridge is not allied with any sect, denomination, political entity, organisation or institution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Membership expectations ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* members should contribute not only monetarily but &#039;in-kind&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* we will be flexible in monetary contributions for members with different levels of income and/or expenses&lt;br /&gt;
* there is no Management responsible for (things such as) taking out the trash and buying juice and resistors and pens; each member is expected to do things that they see need doing&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;sudo leadership&#039;: there are no General leaders, only temporary ones in case of projects that really need one&lt;br /&gt;
* members are expected to be trustworthy&lt;br /&gt;
* members never represent The Community; they only speak for themselves (e.g. to the media)&lt;br /&gt;
* any member can bring guests any time&lt;br /&gt;
* new members must be sponsored by two current members&lt;br /&gt;
* nobody will live in the space (although occasional overnights are OK in case of missed BART and such)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Decision process ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* as noted elsewhere, consensus is the goal.  In case this fails we will have to fall back on majority voting.  We will know that consensus has failed when ... ?&lt;br /&gt;
* individuals are always responsible for their own decisions&lt;br /&gt;
* if you think it needs doing and it won&#039;t cause problems for anyone, then do it.  use your judgment on whether it requires a consensus process (a possible guideline is that things you or you and one other person can do probably don&#039;t require general discussion; things that require, say, 5 or more people or expenditures of over, say, $100, probably do)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From my perspective, NoiseBridge is a continuation of the hacker space I had in mind when I started the SFhackspace google group a few days ago.  So, I&#039;ll quote from some relevant parts of what I wrote there:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I was totally inspired by Chaos Camp in Berlin this summer (2007).  There were so many incredibly beautiful projects that people showed at the Camp, and many of them came out of hacker spaces that exist all over Germany and Austria (in big cities, but also in lots of small towns).  Since I&#039;ve been back from Berlin, I&#039;ve been talking to lots of people about starting a hacker space here.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Wouldn&#039;t it be wonderful to have a space that is open to members 24/7, a place to work on projects both solo and collaborative, a place to support and be supported in your projects, easily accessible to mass transit, safe to get to night or day, a place with a kitchen and a shower, a place to hang out with other geeks? Excitement has been building to create such a space!  It turns out that there are several other people who have been independently thinking about starting a hacker space here.  There are probably lots of people that none of us know that are also thinking about this as well.  This all tells me that it is really is time for a hacker space here!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I uploaded a [http://sfhackspace.googlegroups.com/web/Hacker-Space-Design-Patterns.pdf document] that is from some Chaos folks.  It gives ideas about what has worked (and not) for them.  It is a good place to look to get some ideas, and is a good starting point for discussion.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last night (18-Nov-07), as I type, a group of us discussed some ideas that we were all jazzed about (as I remember it -- others please feel free to edit this):  a space where members pay between $50 and $100 per month (depending on the rent and any common fund we&#039;d like to build up); exploring the intersection of art and technology; diverse membership is cool! (both in types of people and in the types of geekiness members are into); no tolerance of intolerance, including no homophobia, racism, sexism; agreement that people will work interpersonal things out with each other (including not talking behind others&#039; backs); respect for others&#039; well being; there will be space for members to work on projects, and a common space for events, classes, art; members can store their projects in storage drawers/lockers/bins; the focus of the space is non-commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mitch.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Photography is directly related to art, chemistry and mathematics. Building new an unique processes and integrating technology is very much in line with our purpose. [[User:Ioerror|ioerror]] 14:02, 19 November 2007 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elleko</name></author>
	</entry>
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